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@Spawnessj wrote:

I don't mind loosing to a better team, or even a lesser team that played better it is how we loose games like he says above. Penalty on the Bot Defender at the worst time, the defense bot collecting the puck and taking it from the blue line back behind our net just to loose it. The goals that go in because the goalie can't stop a shot from the worst angle. NOT BEING ABLE TO PLAY DEFENSE BECAUSE OUR TOOLS HAVE BEEN TAKEN AWAY especially the lift stick which is critical at certain points of countering the cycle. Or the bot goalie on the other team making some tremendous saves over and over stopping everything even the new glitch deflect goal which I actually am happy is back but not as a glitch but a goal that should be made more often if not defended properly. I don't mind loosing I hate the way the losses are out of our control or when we do win one it doesn't count as this topic was initially started. 

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Bots are going to take penalties. They aren't immune to that. There is nothing built in to the game that forces them to take penalties at times that are more advantageous to your opponent though.

Defense is harder now. I get that. I primarily play defense so of course I'm not exactly happy with the changes. However, I have adapted so defending isn't as challenging as it was at the start. Defense is still very much playable, but people are going to have to adapt to using the available tools differently.

I've seen AI goalies make amazing saves on both sides of the ice. I've seen them fail as well. Again, there is nothing boosting one team's players over the other.

How are deflections a glitch? We had a ton of complaints last year that they weren't working well enough. They're a viable way to score, but you also have give the shooter a lane to make those happen and you have to leave the player in front of the net open. When my team sees our opponents setting up for these shots, we defend the majority of them. 

If you are seeing teams constantly take shots at bad angles, they should be easier to defend since you're recognizing a pattern. I'm not saying goalies shouldn't stop these shots better, but they can also be defended. 

This is very close to an ice tilt discussion. I'm leaving it up for now, but if that continues, it'll need to be locked.

@FloundinatorQQ 

If you're not using human defenders, the chances of getting burned are more likely. I normally set my AI D partner to High Pressure. This way, they don't play so passively that they let opposing players walk in. However, I'm always there as a back up if they get past them. 

Goalies are always an area of contention and one of the most difficult parts of the game to get perfect. As you can see with the change to stopping cross-ice one Ts, that was improved. People are finding other ways to score. Most teams will play to the meta and not try to set up good plays. They go for the easier ways to score. Especially, when a team isn't defending them well. We can't just take away every option for goals. The advantage is often on the shooter when there's a breakaway. There's a breakdown in defense or a bad turnover causing that to happen. Again, not saying we can't improve here, but keep in mind the events it takes to put someone in a good position to score. My club tends to play hockey like you're supposed to and are very often rewarded for it. There are certainly aspects about this game that drive me crazy, but when we see a team that tries the same exploits repeatedly, we normally shut them down.

None of this is me saying the game is great and doesn't need any work. I'm very much with many of you and the complaints, but I also know the game isn't forcing anyone to lose and when goals against us happen, it's most often because there was a mistake on our part somewhere.