stick going through legs

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@EA_Aljo wrote:

@NihilistWolfe 

 The reason there is no trip here is because the poke is on the outside of their leg. 

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Does the fact that the puck carrier is McDavid play any role here? Like an X-Factor or high attribute rating that would contribute to not being tripped here?

Because this is pretty wild to see not be a tripping call:

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@KidShowtime1867 wrote:

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@EA_Aljo wrote:

@NihilistWolfe 

 The reason there is no trip here is because the poke is on the outside of their leg. 

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Does the fact that the puck carrier is McDavid play any role here? Like an X-Factor or high attribute rating that would contribute to not being tripped here?

Because this is pretty wild to see not be a tripping call:

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I understand that, but since the leg wasn't hit with the outgoing poke, a trip isn't called. The stick is fully extended by the time the leg is hit so it's not considered part of the outgoing poke.

@EA_Aljo  can you please answer these simple questions? 

why are sticks going through legs?

why are you trying to defend this like ITS OK that sticks go through legs? The other day it was “oh this only happens because it’s an arcade mode” and now perfect video evidence showing that it doesn’t only happens in arcade modes, and you’re really trying to defend this. 

why is this stills happening? It’s 2023 and the main components in HOCKEY are sticks and pucks, and the mechanics in both are highly broken in many ways. 

I do see that the defender was unable to make contact with the puck and the puck carrier maintained possession. But often I am left BAFFLED wonder how someone poked a puck away from me and 9/10 times it’s because a stick check goes right through my ghost leg. I do not need to provide any further video evidence seeing someone already had a video on deck to do it for me. 

what the community would like is for someone to start providing answer, or better yet SOLUTIONS. 

TANKS, 

T-Roll

I accidentally hit “accept as solution” 

@EA_Aljo can you please revoke that? There is literally no solution and that was a terrible accident

thanks, 

T-Roll

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@Tr0llingstoned wrote:

@EA_Aljo  can you please answer these simple questions? 

why are sticks going through legs?

why are you trying to defend this like ITS OK that sticks go through legs?

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They've never said that they're 'ok' with sticks going through legs and there's been plenty of explanation as to why that happens. 

• When poke check is pressed, the stick is moving along a certain path (its "trajectory").
• If the stick comes into contact with an object (in this case, the outside leg) while it's moving along this path, then it becomes "inactive" (meaning it loses its ability to trip players/knock the puck loose, etc).
• After the stick becomes inactive in this way, it will still continue to move along its original path, even if there are players or other objects in the way.
• This is to prevent the stick from accidentally tripping a player after it has already been interrupted by hitting an outside object.

At least that's my understanding. Hopefully that makes sense or someone from EA can correct me. 

The stick shouldn't be going through any legs. Wasn't that a big thing in the trailer that sticks actually bump off shin pads. Accidental trips are a part of hockey

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@GizzyGremlin wrote:

The stick shouldn't be going through any legs. Wasn't that a big thing in the trailer that sticks actually bump off shin pads. Accidental trips are a part of hockey

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Yes, we all know that sticks shouldn't go through legs, but it's a liberty they need to take. Remember, this isn't real life and no game ever developed has ever been able to get real-world physics perfected, so I'm uncertain why people expect that from a game based on a fringe sport developed by a small budget dev team.

Part of the problem with NHL 23 is that when sticks collide or pass through other players or sticks doesn't seem to adhere to any consistent rules.  And the results of what used to be treated as 'incidental contact' are very different from previous games, but again with no clear explanation.  Figuring out when stick interact like physical objects and when they are allowed to pass through other objects is an exercise in frustration in NHL 23.

As for the stick of the puck carrier going through bodies while maintaining possession, it definitely happens.  Here the player with the puck exposes it completely and the AI skates right into him.  But he never loses possession and because his stick doesn't interact with the defender he's left in an unrealistically advantageous position compared to what would have been the case if there stick behaved as a physical object.

Other plays that would have resulted in loss of the puck in previous years due to incidental contact are also now weighted in favor of the offense.  Here the stick of the player who's carrying the puck actually moves the defenders stick out of the way with no loss of possession or impact on his ability to shoot.

"But in that play the offensive player is just being strong on the puck" I hear you say.  Ok, I can see it on that play.  But offensive animations can actually move defenders legs out of the way in completely unrealistic ways.  Here the offensive player is behind a defender with his stick between the defender's legs.  He somehow not only wins the possession battle against a defender in better position, his shot attempt actually lifts the defenders foot up and out of the way with no effect on the shot.