Strategies in NHL 23

Just an FYI to everybody. 

They claimed in the patch notes that’s they “fixed” the strategies updating when firing and hiring a new coach.

They have not. I tested multiple times last night and you are still stuck with your default coaches strategies when hiring a new coach.

I guess you can just say something is “fixed” nowadays and that’s good enough 

@EA_Aljo I can confirm as well that coaching strategies DO NOT change with hiring new coaches on PS5. 

@Bahamuta 

Have you tried hiring a new coach from the Hire Coaches screen? If not, give that a shot and let me know if it works.

You should unlock strategy choice for some very good reason.

1-It may look logical in theory but in reality, since the AI is not that inteligent, depending of the slider a player use, some strategy are simply not execute properly by the cpu player. The CPU player are not moving and placing themself like they realy should. Often, as player, we don't choose the BEST strategy avalable for our player, but we choose a strategy that help our CPU player to not look so bad. 

2-Real coach strategy are often base on the capacity of their player and depend of the team they have. A real coach would adapt is strategy depending of the group of player he have. In nhl 23, coach have strategy that they use watever group of player they have. A real coach strategy will evolve with is group. 

3-We are limited to change coach because the team finance in nhl 23 is not perfect and money allowed to coaching staff is often not enough to hire good coach, so before forcing player to have to choose the coach they want depending on their strategy, you should upgrade the way we can hire coach. It's very dificult to do anything in the nhl serie if you don't have budget left.

In reality, team often find money to hire good coaching staff when they are avaible, a think that is not present in nhl. In real life, you don't choose a coach by beeing forced to ask him ONLY 3 questions. 

The way we hire coach and scout is a 3 or 4 year old system that have not been touch for some time ans should have been revamp and tweak a little. 

To force strategy usage by coach, you should upgrade the way we can talk, negociate and sign staff. 

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@Caliboy6262_714 wrote:

Just an FYI to everybody. 

They claimed in the patch notes that’s they “fixed” the strategies updating when firing and hiring a new coach.

They have not. I tested multiple times last night and you are still stuck with your default coaches strategies when hiring a new coach.

I guess you can just say something is “fixed” nowadays and that’s good enough 

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Surprise surprise lol.. this is brutal… 

wonder what the chances are of it getting fixed for the mid November update 

Another problem is the hiring system of nhl.

The date at wich you can hire coach is not that clear in the game.

Then, you can ask 3 questions to a coach and then, you have to guest if your contending level, market, salary and fanbase  fit with is preference, make an offer, pass 3 or 4 day and when he refuse, 2 or 3 other coach that you may want top have for your team sign with other team and sudently, no good coach are avalaible. 

That mini game make coach signing almost like a lucky guest...that had to much impact now on your team for such system. The futur of you entire season and fun as player depend on a mini game that don't give you a lot of option and that don't make that mnuch on a sense. 

It was ok before because you could almost ignore it if you din't like it, but now, that mini think who don't work to well is one of the most important think in your franchise and if your owner don't give you the right budget and you don't guest the coach expectation, your done.

You could replace all this with a "roll your random team strategy" button and it would be almost the same. No sense at all. 

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@Bahamuta wrote:
@EA_Aljo Yessir, I have tried that, and also tried turning staff to Auto and let the computer hire my coaches.

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Did you happen to hire a coach with a similar strategy template? So far, we haven't been able to reproduce this so any additional details you may have would be really helpful. Thanks!

@EA_Aljo  Yes. Started a new franchise after the update and everything. Hired a new coach from the coaching hires menu, simmed a few days to see if it would take hold. Nothing. Simmed a whole season to see if it would take hold. Nothing. Still stuck with my default coaches strategies. And no, it is not a similar temples to my default coach. I had an offensive coach and hired the most defensive coach I could find.

This is why WE are frustrated. We waited a month for a patch. We were told this was fixed. Do these fixes even get tested before they go out? It took me five minutes total to test this and find out the “fix” wasn’t working. I guess I just don’t get how they can claim something is “fixed” without it actually being fixed. 

Now we could possibly waiting another month for this be fixed on top of the fact that we already waited a month. I understand you guys are issuing bans, I just received a 24 hour myself. But how can you not understand our frustration? I mean even you have to admit this is getting ridiculous at this point.

WE waited a month for a fix. We’re told it was fixed. And yet it is clearly not. I guess WE would really all just like to know what lead the devs to believe this was fixed? Because as I said, a five minute play test showed that it was not. Look, I can get past not being able to change a coaches strategies. I understand the logic I really do. But please at least make coaches and strategies matter then.

@Caliboy6262_714 

Do you have any screenshots or a video? We just haven't been able to reproduce this yet.

Everyone on this forum is able to replicate it with their game. I am a member of a couple of other message boards besides this one and everyone on those forums are confirming it’s not working as well. I literally haven’t seen one person say it is working out of the 8 or 9 who have tested it.

I am not technologically advanced to do the whole “screen shot” thing so maybe someone else can help out on this one.

Maybe the devs should try replicating it on a retail copy of the game, because that is what most of us are using.

@Caliboy6262_714 

That is what we're testing it on. You can find instructions for capturing video here. It looks like you're on PS5. Instructions for taking screenshots can be found here. Just let me know if you end up doing this.

What do you mean you haven't been able to reproduce this yet ? It's literally there in front of everyone's eyes...

There : https://youtu.be/zmuTYfEZMy0

Also, speaking of strategies not working properly, the game automatically uses wingers in Penalty Kill faceoff, no matter how you set it up in the edit lines menu (both prior to a game, or directly in-game). Center always goes to the wing, and the winger takes the faceoff...on PENALTY KILL ! (Seems to affect Franchise Mode only, because...of course it does !)

This game is absolutely terrible, and I haven’t even tried to play yet. Bought it the day it came out, once I realized strategies didn’t work I went back to nhl 22. I would like to return it but since I didn’t buy the disc I’m stuck with this garbage. What’s worse is there is no one at ea to complain to, because they don’t give 2 PUCKS!  They got their 70$ from me for the last time. I’ve been buying this game since it originally launched back on sega genesis, 

Now that the offersheet bug is covered by the upcoming patch, this needs to be addressed.

And worse yet, the 1-3-1 power play formation is basically gone from franchise after the patch. I have tried creating a new franchise multiple times with multiple teams. Even with teams that run a 1-3-1 in real life. It just alternates between shooting or overload for the powerplay now. And none of the available coaches have the 1-3-1 as their preferred power play strategy. Sure I can set it as my power play formation for played games but it will never be your head coaches preferred strategy.

What I noticed was before the patch most of the coaches preferred power play strategy was blank. So most franchise saves we’re using the 1-3-1 set up as their preferred PP strategy. So it’s essentially gone for the user. Some CPU teams still seem to run it, but if you hire their coach it always comes out as shooting or overload.

Somehow they managed to break this with the last patch and now the one “BIG” add we get for franchise is gone.

I hate to say but I have zero faith in this game this year, and quite frankly I am already over it.

No disrespect @EA_Aljo, but you kept asking for a screenshot or video of the issue, which I provided (see post #113)...but you've been silent since then. Could you confirm that this issue has been brought to the dev team and is being looked into ?

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@KomicJ wrote:

No disrespect @EA_Aljo, but you kept asking for a screenshot or video of the issue, which I provided (see post #113)...but you've been silent since then. Could you confirm that this issue has been brought to the dev team and is being looked into ?

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Yes. The dev team is aware and investigating.