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@Jagavekov wrote:
@Forizeal wrote:
ea might be worth billions of dollars but the nhl team is small compared to madden and fifa. gotta remember madden and fifa sell more copies day one than nhl does the whole year combined
No excuse for what they have done to this game. They have wasted their limited (according to you) resources on levitating player intros, trick shots, power up meters, etc., Instead of making the gameplay better for about a decade. They have actually made the skating far worse since NHL 14, doesn't take a large team to not make things worse.
The skating was less realistic in NHL 14. Moving laterally had your skates staying on the ice. Which is physically impossible. NHL 14 also had more assistance from the game. Pucks weren't so loose. The puck was glued to your stick when taking slapshots. Passes her more on target as well. You're certainly entitled to your opinion that gameplay mechanics are less realistic now, but that really isn't the case. I'm also not saying it's a 1:1 recreation of the real-world sport. This is a video game after all.
@EA_Aljo
"The skating was less realistic in NHL 14. Moving laterally had your skates staying on the ice. Which is physically impossible. NHL 14 also had more assistance from the game. Pucks weren't so loose. The puck was glued to your stick when taking slapshots. Passes her more on target as well. You're certainly entitled to your opinion that gameplay mechanics are less realistic now, but that really isn't the case. I'm also not saying it's a 1:1 recreation of the real-world sport. This is a video game after all."
Whatever they did in NHL14 they should be striving to get back to, because it was a better, funner video game to play.
- EA_Aljo2 years agoCommunity Manager
@de4c0nfr05t wrote:
@EA_Aljo
"The skating was less realistic in NHL 14. Moving laterally had your skates staying on the ice. Which is physically impossible. NHL 14 also had more assistance from the game. Pucks weren't so loose. The puck was glued to your stick when taking slapshots. Passes her more on target as well. You're certainly entitled to your opinion that gameplay mechanics are less realistic now, but that really isn't the case. I'm also not saying it's a 1:1 recreation of the real-world sport. This is a video game after all."
Whatever they did in NHL14 they should be striving to get back to, because it was a better, funner video game to play.This is why I've always said that while people ask for realism, that's not really want they want. They want a game that is more fun than real. We try to create a balance of fun and realism, but this is subjective as not everyone has the same idea of what makes the game fun.
- de4c0nfr05t2 years agoSeasoned Hotshot
@EA_Aljo wrote:
@de4c0nfr05t wrote:@EA_Aljo
"The skating was less realistic in NHL 14. Moving laterally had your skates staying on the ice. Which is physically impossible. NHL 14 also had more assistance from the game. Pucks weren't so loose. The puck was glued to your stick when taking slapshots. Passes her more on target as well. You're certainly entitled to your opinion that gameplay mechanics are less realistic now, but that really isn't the case. I'm also not saying it's a 1:1 recreation of the real-world sport. This is a video game after all."
Whatever they did in NHL14 they should be striving to get back to, because it was a better, funner video game to play.This is why I've always said that while people ask for realism, that's not really want they want. They want a game that is more fun than real. We try to create a balance of fun and realism, but this is subjective as not everyone has the same idea of what makes the game fun.
Oh I agree, you can't please everyone!
NHL14/15 is/was beloved though, so EA knows what makes a good Hockey video game and what people want. They just need to figure out how to get back there game play and feature-wise on these new gen machines with the new engine.
- hiperay2 years agoSeasoned Veteran@de4c0nfr05t Feature wise, sure you can make that argument. Gameplay wise though? Forget that. The game is trash in comparison to now gameplay wise. Go watch an NHL 14 game and you will see how painful it is. Its night and day of a difference.
- de4c0nfr05t2 years agoSeasoned Hotshot
@hiperayCouldn't disagree more. I still played NHL15 online up until they shutdown the servers a couple year ago. Just so much funner, especially playing goalie.
- 2 years ago
Exhaust Engine has always been there. It’s certainly in NHL23. The cpu can become dominant in the offensive zone and ramp
up their speed of passes. It’s almost like it was a bug that they decided to make into a feature! I don't know why people so hyped every year before than be disapointed. Maybe many forgot about last years removing of presentation.
- 2 years ago@nhluser New goalie animations are one thing, but this offensive power engine seems for me more or lesser a marketing gag cause from my sight it is in at NHL23. I clearly can watch it in true broadcast mode. They should give me a new roster update for NHL 23 ( with some new headshot pics, some new player likenesses ) and it will be good enough for me to continue with 23.
- 2 years ago
@Froommey wrote:
@nhluserNew goalie animations are one thing, but this offensive power engine seems for me more or lesser a marketing gag cause from my sight it is in at NHL23. I clearly can watch it in true broadcast mode. They should give me a new roster update for NHL 23 ( with some new headshot pics, some new player likenesses ) and it will be good enough for me to continue with 23.Hope all is well… Don’t know if you are aware of this, but maybe your prayers have been answered ?
Check my Setup/Roster/Gameplay for 23. Spent close to 600 hours on all of this, to bring 23 to the next level IMO 😀
pernellkarl076-nhl23-ultra-realistic-gameplay-setup
Thanks !
- 2 years ago
The problem is nhl 14 worked better because it was more balanced and things seemed to actually work based on user input. In nhl 23 everything just seems way too random and every game plays differently. You could poke check the puck 5 times off a guys stick and nothing happens and then the next game every poke world. I never had that issue on nhl 14.. there were less animations which was better and the game played more simple which allowed us to play and not let the games X factors or randomness decide things. I also remember much more balance between d and o and passing was better along with it being harder to score which was better too. Not sure why defense always gets the crappy builds
- KlariskraysNHL2 years agoHero@TasteofChicago91 But you see back then people complained about puck on a string and the same results always happening on situations. Now we get the randomness that happens in real hockey and people can't stand it.
Puck-Moving Defensemen is probably one of the best builds int he game. So many wingers even use that build and it bothers me they even allow that and says it needs balanced/toned down. - 2 years ago
I use puck moving defenseman too but all the D builds are way too slow except that one.. hockey isn’t random though. Sure the puck can bounce on the ice one way but in real life if you skate into traffic the other team will just take the puck easily.. in this game it’s such a chore and then you have X factors which are ruining the game. They should never be in eashl. So tired of being in good position and making the right play and getting punished for it . It takes no skill to offense
- bg0vzeyqov1y2 years agoNew Veteran
@FroommeyI'm so glad I'm not the only one who noticed this (pretty sure it's in 22 as well) I found the CPU also plays harder in the final minute because it's trying to bridge the gap. I've seen guys like Jumbo Joe suddenly zip towards me like he's in his prime again. I'm not trying to accuse towards anything.
I actually like this tho cause your coach IRL should be pressing you to play harder in certain situations/ sustained pressure IRL can cause a team to play better, it just needs balance so it's not a guarantee/ players are still realistically playing to their abilities. I want to lose games cause the CPU earned it as fairly as me.