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@Beauts90 wrote:
@KidShowtime1867 wrote:
@Beauts90 wrote:
@KidShowtime1867 wrote:
@thebrazenhead75 wrote:That is still the high flip dump I’m taking about.
I have a great idea: Head over to YouTube or another service you might use to watch game replays. Find a clip or two of a team in the NHL flipping the puck from their own corner and into the neutral zone that springs a winger for a breakout.
If you can show a real-world example of this precise exact flip dump that you insist needs to be buffed in-game, then we might be getting somewhere.
Obviously these are not from the corner, but almost all of them show a flip with more velocity than what you have shown in your videos.
Like I said and what keeps getting ignored: the flip dump could use more velocity. I've posted clips of the current flip dump doing exactly what you see in these videos, but I'm still told it's "impossible"
Maybe it’s too early in the morning, so I can’t find all of your clips, but can you please repost the video of you doing EXACTLY what is shown in example 1?
This banks off the glass, but I think we can agree we get the exact outcome:
There's no winger here for the breakout, but again - a flip dump up the side from in deep and out of the zone:
I'm slightly a little more up in the zone than Dillon:
Barron obtains the puck slightly before Dillon does:
But as you can see.. this is almost exactly identical with the differences being a bounce off the glass and the exact specific areas of the ice.
At the end of the day, there's s claim that high flipping the dump is impossible. I'm saying and proving that it's not. Then the goalposts get changed to "you can't high flip from deep in your own end" and then I go ahead and prove that. Then it's "you can't high flip dump from deep in your own end on your backhand instantly after a faceoff win to a winger streaking up the boards for a breakout" and then I go ahead and show how you can do exactly that. (albeit, omitting the faceoff win)
Then I ask for videos of IRL scenarios which was kindly provided. And those are great. They definitely show how velocity can be increased for sure. Something I was adamant about when this discussion first popped up back in November.
So now I'm asked to recreate the exact specific scenario in one of the clips and aside from some positional differences and the fact the puck bounces off the glass - I've shown you can get the result that's being asked for in this thread: clear the zone, get a possible breakout.
What's next? "No that's not it. I'm talking about a high flip dump from behind your net, on your backhand, after a faceoff win in the 3rd period on Tuesday in July" ?
You and I have much different definitions of “exactly”. Absolutely no goal posts are being moved here, you just haven’t provided what was asked, you just showed a very different play with similar results, again not what I asked for.
Instead of always being right, you could easily say “that particular play is no longer achievable with the new nerf, if you want I can provide clips of some plays I’ve found to work.”
Respectfully, if I wanted tips and tricks on how to play the game, that’s what I would ask for. This would save so much of the back and forth arguments that get absolutely nowhere and end up being locked on this forum.
All I’m saying is if the game is going to remove realistic features from the game to support their arcade gimmicks, that’s all well in good, but I’m far from a competitive player and would stop playing the game before I force myself to “adapt” to play a style I don’t enjoy.
I’m adding my opinion on it because I’ve enjoyed this series over the years and just simply want to enjoy it again.
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