Not recommended to manually defend cross crease?

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@TheUnusedCrayon wrote:

And here is what happens when you should just give up on defense because why even bother when offense can play as bad as they want. Pokecheck is bad to start it off with, then they pass it directly to me twice and both times I don't get control (but you know they would if they received the pass of course): 

https://youtu.be/pWeIf_sOMVY?si=Vd3zWEn7W7Ygm68A

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You DID gain control:

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Then proceeded to skate directly into your opponent who poked it away from you.

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@KidShowtime1867 wrote:

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@TheUnusedCrayon wrote:

https://youtu.be/gb41Js2sbks?si=scVYY0h8pH0fD0Oa

This is with 97 defensive awareness and gold quick pick. Slow pass, I'm backskating looking up ice, anticipating pass knowing it's gonna go through me but wanted to capture the video to show why you never aggressively risk cutting the lane. 

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The instant you're about to intercept the puck, you decided to trigger a body check. You can tell because your player is holding their arm in the body check animation as you turn around.

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Bruh... Do you know what a hitting animation looks like? Not that. That's a pivoting animation. My skating animation is stick up as high in the air, that's why as I turn and skate it stays consistent. Am I hitting and turning with a hit at the same time? 

Also if it was a body check you'd a)see both my arms throw out together and b)some type of movement from my skates in a direction. 

Here's what a hit looks like, notice how it looks nothing similar, look at the stick, look at the arms:

https://youtu.be/BT_qUY5q8Gk?si=Pbt9TcmUkKycp9Sq

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@KidShowtime1867 wrote:

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@TheUnusedCrayon wrote:

And here is what happens when you should just give up on defense because why even bother when offense can play as bad as they want. Pokecheck is bad to start it off with, then they pass it directly to me twice and both times I don't get control (but you know they would if they received the pass of course): 

https://youtu.be/pWeIf_sOMVY?si=Vd3zWEn7W7Ygm68A

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You DID gain control:

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Then proceeded to skate directly into your opponent who poked it away from you.

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And again, if that's an offensive player there's zero forced slow pickup animation. When you put all of those stats and perks and you can't pick up something clean while offense can 100% of the time it's ridiculous.

"Hey it took a full second to accept the puck while guys are skating at you, that's good enough!”

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@TheUnusedCrayon wrote:

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@KidShowtime1867 wrote:

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@TheUnusedCrayon wrote:

https://youtu.be/gb41Js2sbks?si=scVYY0h8pH0fD0Oa

This is with 97 defensive awareness and gold quick pick. Slow pass, I'm backskating looking up ice, anticipating pass knowing it's gonna go through me but wanted to capture the video to show why you never aggressively risk cutting the lane. 

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The instant you're about to intercept the puck, you decided to trigger a body check. You can tell because your player is holding their arm in the body check animation as you turn around.

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Bruh... Do you know what a hitting animation looks like? Not that. That's a pivoting animation. My skating animation is stick up as high in the air, that's why as I turn and skate it stays consistent. Am I hitting and turning with a hit at the same time? 

Also if it was a body check you'd a)see both my arms throw out together and b)some type of movement from my skates in a direction. 

Here's what a hit looks like, notice how it looks nothing similar, look at the stick, look at the arms:

https://youtu.be/BT_qUY5q8Gk?si=Pbt9TcmUkKycp9Sq

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You can still hold body check during a pivot, which is what you did here

You don't "throw both (your) arms" when holding body check. Your arm raises. The 'shove' only happens on the release. 

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@jimmo52 wrote:
@KidShowtime1867So, for a manually played defender and have that interception, you need to be exactly in the passing lane and to stay still?

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No. Staying still is NOT what you should be doing. Feathering the left stick to keep your player active while ensuring your stick is in the passing lane and facing the potential incoming pass is what should be done. 

Many people are frantically skating their defenders with 100% urgency in any given moment. This lowers the success rate of automated defence actions, such as an interceptions. I keep harping on it.. but people need to slow down. Feather the left stick more and you'll see FAR more success on both offence and defence. 

Again this example from NoSleeves who claims this pass should've been intercepted. The Boston player is actively skating his player directly into his goalie when he should've been feathering outward toward the top of the crease (with vision control held to face the puck carrier) or tie up the dangerous player

@KidShowtime1867 Again, I understand all the tips that you gave out.

But in the end, isn't true that it's better to leave the defender between a cross crease as a cpu for the higher chances of interception. It's a legit question, not questioning your expertise or anything. Problem with online games is that with delays, it is not easy to feather the left stick as you will see a delay in the movement of your defender. And forget about having delays or not, with cpu having the control, even without perfectly in the passing lane, it does intercept, right?

For real, I truly want to manually control my defender that is between a cross crease but if the advantage is higher with the cpu, why not let the cpu take control of that kind of situation?

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@jimmo52 wrote:

@KidShowtime1867 Again, I understand all the tips that you gave out.

But in the end, isn't true that it's better to leave the defender between a cross crease as a cpu for the higher chances of interception.

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I would say that a CPU defender on a 2-on-1 is a gamble. The A.I. is unpredictable sometimes - especially when it comes to defensive coverage. 

I'd much prefer taking control of that defender. I'm very confident when I'm defending 2-on-1's because I've had a lot of success in finding passing lanes, feathering my skating and ensuring the probability that i disrupt the play is high.... but it's NEVER guaranteed. 

Passes will seemingly go 'through' me from time to time, only for me to assess things afterwords and notice where I screwed up. In the moment, I'm angry and thinking 'man.. this f'ing game sometimes...' but more often than not, if a pass has gone 'through' me, it's a mistake I made.

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@jimmo52 wrote:

@KidShowtime1867 Again, I understand all the tips that you gave out.

Problem with online games is that with delays, it is not easy to feather the left stick as you will see a delay in the movement of your defender.

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In a peer-to-peer situation, such as Online Versus Play, the delay you are experiencing will also be experienced by your opponent. That's just kinda the nature of p2p connections. 

In a client-server scenario (such as HUT/WoC) - there's definitely a chance that your movements are delayed. That's why it's important to take note of your ping. Anything above 50ms is going to result in you adjusting your gameplay to more of an anticipatory type of playstyle, which can be incredibly frustrating but is playable. 

I don't deny that latency plays a role in what we perceive should've happened versus the outcomes we encounter. It would be awesome if the 'netcode' was streamlined to improve connection quality and lower latency. I'm no expert in that particular field though so I wouldn't even know where to begin to analyze potential changes/solutions there. 

@KidShowtime1867wow you actually believe everything is fine huh... keep watching please.

UnusedCrayon posted a dozen videos, at least half of which are absolutely undisputable proofs that the intercepting is terrible. Don't just cherry pick the one or two you can argue, that's kind of dishonest.

Also we get it, sometimes people are fractionally off the passing lane and perhaps they're moving a bit too much at the split second where they should've kept quiet for the animation to engage but come on... to completely dismiss the fact that the intercepting is way underpowered compared to the offensive players ability to handle any pass at any speed facing any direction is just cognitive dissonance. Look at all the videos please.