I'm excited that the focus this year was offline, specifically franchise mode. But I have to say, I am equally disappointed that full presentation is not back. The team knows how requested it is, and...
It was pretty uncommon that I saw someone ragging. Not to mention, you slow down a lot when ragging so I think that deterred this. It was also very satisfying to pressure them, cause a turnover and score. Regardless, I'd love to see us do a better job with griefers. Especially in drop-ins when it comes to goalies leaving the net, laying down, and goofing around in general.
I'd also love to see a return to drop-ins being indoors. Hopefully, that happens.
I think we all need to keep in mind that when it comes to public consensus, that's actually a pretty small portion of the overall playerbase. There is a FAR higher population that doesn't partake in community forums. This means there are also a ton of people that either like or aren't concerned enough with the presentation style to complain about it online. Complaining online is practically a pastime for this game and pretty much any other. People are less likely to go to online forums just to praise something. So, of course it looks like everyone that plays doesn't like the current presentation style.
We get complaints that the game is copied and pasted every year. Then, we change stuff up, give it a new presentation style and what do we get requests for? The same look we had previously. So, why make that complaint and then just request the old aesthetic anyway? I get people would want new cut scenes that are more representative of the sport. However, there is a much flashier look to TV broadcasts now. It's been going in this direction for awhile. I know they don't have the pre-game animations our game has. I too would rather see skating around the ice, partaking in the national anthems, walking out the hall, etc. Regardless, there are a lot of people that like this as these have been quite popular. There's a very diverse playerbase. It's not all just hardcore players just wanting a rerelease of NHL 14. I hope in the future, we can find a good balance that keeps the authenticity of what we see on TV while adding some flair to satisfy the people that want to personalize their player more.
We get complaints that the game is copied and pasted every year. Then, we change stuff up, give it a new presentation style and what do we get requests for? The same look we had previously.
I make a bad sandwich, you tell me it's bad. I make a worse sandwich and you tell me it tastes worse. That doesn't mean the bad sandwich is good, it means it just means it's not as bad as the new one.
Well the hope is always to make the sandwich better than worse. I mean there are people like me who actually love the new presentation. I mean look at what the NHL has done with Disney using the Big Greens. It's not exactly something that interests me but it feels geared more towards the the younger/future generation of kids. With the new presentation stuff I feel they are going that route of trying to attract the younger generation with the "fortnite" flash.
I personally don't know why Full Presentation isn't back in the game how you all asked for it on forums and other places . I mean you have seen lots of the creators talk about wanting it too so you should get the sense that it's requested and the higher up do know it's wanted.
What annoys me is in prior to 23 you had the option of condensed or full presentation. The new presentation is shorter and less utilized than every other sports sim currently released. The new presentation doesn't feel special or better than the other games
This should be irrelevant. I don't care what 'creators' want. Their primary goal is to increase subs and views, so they want the game to get popular rather than getting better. It seems apparent these two would go hand in hand, but they don't. I think EA is stuck in this loop as well.
Short term, they may capture a few Fortnite players and some newcomers attracted to the individualism trend, but those interests (and wallets) wane after a release or two.
Long term, if EA took serious the cries from the hardcore community, you'd have an unwavering base of loyal customers who couldn't wait to see what EA did in the realism-to-virtualized department. That was the driving force behind the hype before releases we saw from '93-'14.
Now that we see EA is chasing trends in the hopes to get streamers and influencers to showcase their game, we're seeing almost nothing in terms of hype for a new release. In fact, this year, it felt as though EA was purposely holding back any substantial information until 2 weeks before release. That's so odd when contrasted with a pre-release cycle only 4 years ago.
My point is these creators also give their feedback to those that work on the game. I also can ask them about full presentation and show links but it doesn't mean they are gonna change their course. I am gonna try to get the good feedback and desires mentioned to them as best as I can. And you know by good feedback it means talking about the problem and in details how they might like to see it resolved instead of ."game bad fix"
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I'm excited that the focus this year was offline, specifically franchise mode. But I have to say, I am equally disappointed that full presentation is not back. The team knows how requested it is, and I'm sure they've seen our suggestions by now that it be on a toggle switch for those who aren't as interested. I understand the syncing issues might make it impossible to do for online, but it could have just been put back into offline modes since that's what the team was working on anyway.
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We get complaints that the game is copied and pasted every year. Then, we change stuff up, give it a new presentation style and what do we get requests for? The same look we had previously.
I make a bad sandwich, you tell me it's bad. I make a worse sandwich and you tell me it tastes worse. That doesn't mean the bad sandwich is good, it means it just means it's not as bad as the new one.
Do you understand what we are saying?
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We get complaints that the game is copied and pasted every year. Then, we change stuff up, give it a new presentation style and what do we get requests for? The same look we had previously.
I make a bad sandwich, you tell me it's bad. I make a worse sandwich and you tell me it tastes worse. That doesn't mean the bad sandwich is good, it means it just means it's not as bad as the new one.
Do you understand what we are saying?
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It was pretty uncommon that I saw someone ragging. Not to mention, you slow down a lot when ragging so I think that deterred this. It was also very satisfying to pressure them, cause a turnover and score. Regardless, I'd love to see us do a better job with griefers. Especially in drop-ins when it comes to goalies leaving the net, laying down, and goofing around in general.
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I'd also love to see a return to drop-ins being indoors. Hopefully, that happens.
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I think we all need to keep in mind that when it comes to public consensus, that's actually a pretty small portion of the overall playerbase. There is a FAR higher population that doesn't partake in community forums. This means there are also a ton of people that either like or aren't concerned enough with the presentation style to complain about it online. Complaining online is practically a pastime for this game and pretty much any other. People are less likely to go to online forums just to praise something. So, of course it looks like everyone that plays doesn't like the current presentation style.
We get complaints that the game is copied and pasted every year. Then, we change stuff up, give it a new presentation style and what do we get requests for? The same look we had previously. So, why make that complaint and then just request the old aesthetic anyway? I get people would want new cut scenes that are more representative of the sport. However, there is a much flashier look to TV broadcasts now. It's been going in this direction for awhile. I know they don't have the pre-game animations our game has. I too would rather see skating around the ice, partaking in the national anthems, walking out the hall, etc. Regardless, there are a lot of people that like this as these have been quite popular. There's a very diverse playerbase. It's not all just hardcore players just wanting a rerelease of NHL 14. I hope in the future, we can find a good balance that keeps the authenticity of what we see on TV while adding some flair to satisfy the people that want to personalize their player more.
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It was pretty uncommon that I saw someone ragging. Not to mention, you slow down a lot when ragging so I think that deterred this. It was also very satisfying to pressure them, cause a turnover and score. Regardless, I'd love to see us do a better job with griefers. Especially in drop-ins when it comes to goalies leaving the net, laying down, and goofing around in general.
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I'd also love to see a return to drop-ins being indoors. Hopefully, that happens.
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I think we all need to keep in mind that when it comes to public consensus, that's actually a pretty small portion of the overall playerbase. There is a FAR higher population that doesn't partake in community forums. This means there are also a ton of people that either like or aren't concerned enough with the presentation style to complain about it online. Complaining online is practically a pastime for this game and pretty much any other. People are less likely to go to online forums just to praise something. So, of course it looks like everyone that plays doesn't like the current presentation style.
We get complaints that the game is copied and pasted every year. Then, we change stuff up, give it a new presentation style and what do we get requests for? The same look we had previously. So, why make that complaint and then just request the old aesthetic anyway? I get people would want new cut scenes that are more representative of the sport. However, there is a much flashier look to TV broadcasts now. It's been going in this direction for awhile. I know they don't have the pre-game animations our game has. I too would rather see skating around the ice, partaking in the national anthems, walking out the hall, etc. Regardless, there are a lot of people that like this as these have been quite popular. There's a very diverse playerbase. It's not all just hardcore players just wanting a rerelease of NHL 14. I hope in the future, we can find a good balance that keeps the authenticity of what we see on TV while adding some flair to satisfy the people that want to personalize their player more.
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Well the hope is always to make the sandwich better than worse. I mean there are people like me who actually love the new presentation. I mean look at what the NHL has done with Disney using the Big Greens. It's not exactly something that interests me but it feels geared more towards the the younger/future generation of kids. With the new presentation stuff I feel they are going that route of trying to attract the younger generation with the \"fortnite\" flash.
I personally don't know why Full Presentation isn't back in the game how you all asked for it on forums and other places . I mean you have seen lots of the creators talk about wanting it too so you should get the sense that it's requested and the higher up do know it's wanted.
Well the hope is always to make the sandwich better than worse. I mean there are people like me who actually love the new presentation. I mean look at what the NHL has done with Disney using the Big Greens. It's not exactly something that interests me but it feels geared more towards the the younger/future generation of kids. With the new presentation stuff I feel they are going that route of trying to attract the younger generation with the \"fortnite\" flash.
I personally don't know why Full Presentation isn't back in the game how you all asked for it on forums and other places . I mean you have seen lots of the creators talk about wanting it too so you should get the sense that it's requested and the higher up do know it's wanted.
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What annoys me is in prior to 23 you had the option of condensed or full presentation. The new presentation is shorter and less utilized than every other sports sim currently released. The new presentation doesn't feel special or better than the other games
What annoys me is in prior to 23 you had the option of condensed or full presentation. The new presentation is shorter and less utilized than every other sports sim currently released. The new presentation doesn't feel special or better than the other games
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KlariskraysNHLwrote:
lots of the creators talk about wanting it too
This should be irrelevant. I don't care what 'creators' want. Their primary goal is to increase subs and views, so they want the game to get popular rather than getting better. It seems apparent these two would go hand in hand, but they don't. I think EA is stuck in this loop as well.
Short term, they may capture a few Fortnite players and some newcomers attracted to the individualism trend, but those interests (and wallets) wane after a release or two.
Long term, if EA took serious the cries from the hardcore community, you'd have an unwavering base of loyal customers who couldn't wait to see what EA did in the realism-to-virtualized department. That was the driving force behind the hype before releases we saw from '93-'14.
Now that we see EA is chasing trends in the hopes to get streamers and influencers to showcase their game, we're seeing almost nothing in terms of hype for a new release. In fact, this year, it felt as though EA was purposely holding back any substantial information until 2 weeks before release. That's so odd when contrasted with a pre-release cycle only 4 years ago.
This should be irrelevant. I don't care what 'creators' want. Their primary goal is to increase subs and views, so they want the game to get popular rather than getting better. It seems apparent these two would go hand in hand, but they don't. I think EA is stuck in this loop as well.
Short term, they may capture a few Fortnite players and some newcomers attracted to the individualism trend, but those interests (and wallets) wane after a release or two.
Long term, if EA took serious the cries from the hardcore community, you'd have an unwavering base of loyal customers who couldn't wait to see what EA did in the realism-to-virtualized department. That was the driving force behind the hype before releases we saw from '93-'14.
Now that we see EA is chasing trends in the hopes to get streamers and influencers to showcase their game, we're seeing almost nothing in terms of hype for a new release. In fact, this year, it felt as though EA was purposely holding back any substantial information until 2 weeks before release. That's so odd when contrasted with a pre-release cycle only 4 years ago.
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My point is these creators also give their feedback to those that work on the game. I also can ask them about full presentation and show links but it doesn't mean they are gonna change their course. I am gonna try to get the good feedback and desires mentioned to them as best as I can. And you know by good feedback it means talking about the problem and in details how they might like to see it resolved instead of .\"game bad fix\"
My point is these creators also give their feedback to those that work on the game. I also can ask them about full presentation and show links but it doesn't mean they are gonna change their course. I am gonna try to get the good feedback and desires mentioned to them as best as I can. And you know by good feedback it means talking about the problem and in details how they might like to see it resolved instead of .\"game bad fix\"
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