This was supposed to be fixed now it’s everywhere at higher level clubs. At least bring shoving back as a counter.

L2 can be countered with a shove. Our team plays Div 1 and just finished Elite Playoffs. Ran into this a lot but our Defenders knew how to combat it: match speed with the puck carrier by hustling and not throwing any inputs until the last possible second. You'll slowly inch closer to the puck carrier and with patience, you'll knock the puck off the stick every single time the moment they're about to enter the slot.99.999999% of users throw a poke check or a shove too early, and they convince themselves it's because the LT gives a speed boost but it doesn't.

L2 abuse has not been in the game that long. There was a previous issue with it being exploited in either 23 or 24 as well as this year. In both cases, they could still be defended. We are extremely well aware of these reports and are looking to address it in a future game. Defense is not nerfed every year. Defense has largely stayed the same for the last couple of years. With the exception of hip checks moving to one button. Which is also an exploited action. I get that offense feels OP. They have a whole set of dekes and many of them one touch. Regardless, good defenders can stop them. Part of being good at any position is utilizing the tools you have. There are a lot of very skilled defenders that can stop forwards trying to exploit LT'ing. Also, if you're going on one one with a forward, it means they made it past the rest of your team. Defense, like the rest of hockey, is a team effort. If you're constantly getting beat by forwards zipping past you, it would be good to recognize how this play is developing and work on countering it. It's not impossible by any means.

OR 26, 27, 28, 29 , 30, 31, 32, 33 ETC...

So I went to YouTube, typed 'NHL 25 LT' and the only in-game videos are from HUT. The speed disparity between jacked up HUT teams and their weaker opponents is what lends LT 'abuse' to be so prevalent. It's not about getting a speed boost at all - it's that a HUT team with forwards that have 99ACC and 99 SPD are using LT to fake out slower defenders into taking an action that will slow them down more such as a mistimed hit/poke check or a poorly timed transition to forward skating to match speed. Go to YouTube and do the same search and watch the videos - the only non-hut videos you'll see is some jackal yukking it up while burning Ai-defenders in practice mode claiming 'the game is broken'. Once again I'll say that expecting 100% realism in Hockey Ultimate Team is why some of you are so angry about the state of the game. HUT is not a balanced game mode in any way whatsoever. It's designed that way to entice you into spending money in order to have a team that can compete with others who grind/spend money. I know a lot of you take pride in your skill at this game, and if you're going about HUT the honest way by grinding out a top-tier team; chances are, at some point, you're going to come up against a stacked credit card team that will burn past all your players with ease. I think that scenario drives a lot of people to claim things are unbalanced, LT is a speed boost, etc.

Dude come on really. If you guys can fix it for 26 you can fix it for 25. You don't build every game from scratch you update the previous version. You absolutely could watch this in 25. Even if it's the day before 26's release you could still patch it. The real reason they won't is greed. How does not fixing this possibly mean we're greedy? That couldn't be further from the truth. If it were something that could have been fixed without negatively affecting the game, it would have been done. This is taking time and testing to resolve. With being so late in the game's cycle, it's better left for a future game.

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PlayoffError
Hero
3 months ago
We're well past the point where any meaningful gameplay changes are going to happen for NHL 25. The devs have knows about the L2 issue for a long time so hopefully they've had enough runway to address it in a future game.
EA_Aljo
Community Manager
3 months ago
Hey there. As PlayoffError mentioned, we're aware of this issue and it most likely won't be addressed for NHL 25.
KidShowtime1867
Hero
3 months ago
L2 can be countered with a shove. Our team plays Div 1 and just finished Elite Playoffs. Ran into this a lot but our Defenders knew how to combat it: match speed with the puck carrier by hustling and not throwing any inputs until the last possible second. You'll slowly inch closer to the puck carrier and with patience, you'll knock the puck off the stick every single time the moment they're about to enter the slot.
99.999999% of users throw a poke check or a shove too early, and they convince themselves it's because the LT gives a speed boost but it doesn't.
Nasher355
Seasoned Veteran
2 months ago
Why wont it be addressed? People paid the insane 70 dollar price tag for this game and you guys won't even fix it? If it can be patched in for 26 you can patch it in for 25. Absolutely embarrassing. Solo indie devs do so much more than EA for so much less money. I bet they'll add another battlepass to 25. Pathetic
Stubo_NHL24
New Ace
2 months ago
LT does give a speed boost if done properly. Plenty of videos from the youtubers showing how its done. Its not just elite players that use it, pretty much everyone does it now.
Its virtually impossible to play the game successfully without joining in with cheese fest.
KidShowtime1867
Hero
2 months ago
Stubo_NHL24 wrote:
LT does give a speed boost if done properly. Plenty of videos from the youtubers showing how its done.
Link me to a video that you think shows LT giving a speed boost.
Stubo_NHL24 wrote:
Its virtually impossible to play the game successfully without joining in with cheese fest.
Absolutely not. I'm a sim-style player who can hang with elite players all day.
titus1029
Seasoned Vanguard
2 months ago
"most likely won't be addressed for NHL 25" What a classic EA response. please for the love of god don't crap the bed with NHL 26
EA_Aljo
Community Manager
2 months ago
Because it needs the time to be properly fixed. Otherwise, it's going to negatively affect vision control which would end up being worse. I get that's vague. It's all I have though. I have brought this up many times to the team. They want it gone too. It just couldn't happen in 25.
Nasher355
Seasoned Veteran
2 months ago
Dude come on really. If you guys can fix it for 26 you can fix it for 25. You don't build every game from scratch you update the previous version. You absolutely could watch this in 25. Even if it's the day before 26's release you could still patch it. The real reason they won't is greed.
xXTailsx
Rising Adventurer
2 months ago
OR 26, 27, 28, 29 , 30, 31, 32, 33 ETC...

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