rsandersr47
19 days agoSeasoned Ace
Scoring
Backhand, forehand, backhand, goal. I feel trying to make good plays and set up 1T shots, or anything else just seems far less effective than just backhanding for every goal.. it's sad that it can ev...
No response eh. đ¤đ
thebrazenhead75 wrote:There is also a lot more players complaining and noticing this year than years past about playing as a goalie. A lot more that have even stopped playing goalie as a result.
Based on what metrics? There's always a bunch of goalies who 'quit' every year because they refuse to adjust. This is nothing new. There's also a bunch of new goalies who adapt to the changes without issue and enjoy it.
thebrazenhead75 wrote:Actually Iâm still playing better than I did last year but the difference? Those âEAâ crap goals and those unnecessary animations that cause my goalie to flop around resulting in goals. Thatâs the only logical reason I can think of that has caused my SV% to drop so much.
Congrats, you're doing amazing this year. That's great. Maybe you can post a goal scored on you that you believe is an unnecessary animation so that the development team can identify potential issues?
thebrazenhead75 wrote:Furthermore, how does anyone reason why they removed a very well used tool âpaddle downâ to replace and in the process duplicating âdesperation saveâ to two different buttons?!?! That would be like removing your toilet paper holder with another soap dish/holder. Now you have two soap dishes and no toilet paper holder. That would be idiotic making absolutely no sense whatsoever. Yet thatâs EA!
I don't know enough about goalie controls to know what you're angry at here. Maybe someone from EA can chime in and explain the control changes.
thebrazenhead75 wrote:No response eh. đ¤đ
Much of your post is just about how amazing you are as a goalie and how you're going to get more wins this year. Not sure how to respond to that lol.
Anyone that plays this game can easily notice way LESS people playing G. Drop ins are one example. It takes me longer now to find games because Iâm backing out of lobbies that donât have a human goalie. More CLUBS are running games without a goalie. Anyone that plays this game daily during peak hours will notice and agree.
I NEVER said I was playing âamazingâ. Donât use words that I didnât use!
Once again with the video clips? Waste of my time when itâs so obvious to anyone that plays the game consistently who will see all the goals caused by these unnecessary animations. Thatâs the #1 reason people are complaining about in game and on social media platforms. The DEVS shouldâve recognized this when testing the game. They probably even did but just said screw it like they do to so many other aspects and release it regardless. Doese EA need video clips (proof) of sticks going through players, the boards etc? No. Why? Because itâs so obvious to anyone that has been playing the game for years and video clips arenât needed.
Anyone doesnât need to know anything about goalie controls to know how idiotic removing one tool while duplicating another is. I donât know enough about bathroom renovations but I know how completely IDIOTIC it would be to remove a toilet paper holder with another soap dish. If I hired someone to renovate my bathroom and they did that then I would immediately fire them. The only reason I can think of why nobody at EA has responded to this is because they donât want to admit to such an idiotic mistake.
Keep defending EA and its many glaring mistakes and all the other problems with this game. The majority of the people that play this game know the truth.
Once again with the video clips? Waste of my time when itâs so obvious to anyone that plays the game consistently who will see all the goals caused by these unnecessary animations.
Video clips are the best way to bring about change. This is an incredibly dynamic game. We can't just be told something happened and reproduce it. There are a lot of other details normally and a lot of people aren't going to recognize those. Our developers can watch a clip and have a general idea of what the issue is. That also doesn't mean it's easy to fix though.
Doese EA need video clips (proof) of sticks going through players, the boards etc? No. Why? Because itâs so obvious to anyone that has been playing the game for years and video clips arenât needed.
We don't need clips of the stick going through the boards. As has been said many times, that is intended. Unfortunately, we're not at a point where players will perfectly avoid objects with their stick. Currently, we would see more issues if we didn't allow the stick to pass through objects/players at specific times. Again, video helps a ton. This is why it's so heavily requested.
Keep defending EA and its many glaring mistakes and all the other problems with this game. The majority of the people that play this game know the truth.
The majority of people playing this game don't post on the forums. It's a very small percentage of the playerbase that does. I'm not saying everyone outside the forums thinks the game is perfect though.
We've never said everything is working as intended. We would love for there to be no issues. It would be amazing if that were the case. The reality is that there are bound to be bugs, glitches, animations that don't always line up or wrong animations playing, etc. Hockey is incredibly complex. It's pretty much impossible to perfectly replicate this sport in a video game. It has it's issues. It also still provides a very competitive and fun game for many of us. People are entitled to defend it just as they are to be negative about it. Especially when we frequently see people blaming the game when it's more about how they're actually playing. Again, the game isn't perfect, but neither are humans. We all make mistakes. This is a hyper-competitive community though and not everyone is going to be accountable for them. Video tells us when an issue is legitimate or if it's human error. We're obviously no strangers to our own mistakes here. I'm not saying there's no fault on our end either and we want to be accountable for those. I have said many times over the years here when something's an issue on our end.
I donât post clips when certain aspects/problems should be obvious to those that play. Can you honestly say youâve never seen a goalie make an unnecessary animation that resulted in a goal? I definitely canât. How anyone didnât see this while testing and before the release of the game is beyond me. This wasnât a problem in previous years so something was changed that is causing it this year. I initially thought it was caused by goalie fatigue/the pressure system so I boosted the appropriate attributes yet the problem still exists. I tried changing my style of play for a few games yet the problem still exists. Iâm obviously not a developer and donât know how things work or donât but what I know is that these animations shouldnât be happening as frequently and as inconsistently as they do.
Furthermore, Iâve been playing this game and goalie long enough to know when I make a mistake (human error) or not. I do have my share of bad games but overall Iâm a very consistent player. These animations are very inconsistent though and happen regardless of me playing great, good, average and below.
Itâs not like Iâm making this crap up because I have no reason to. I just want a solution.
thebrazenhead75 wrote:Anyone that plays this game can easily notice way LESS people playing G. Drop ins are one example. It takes me longer now to find games because Iâm backing out of lobbies that donât have a human goalie. More CLUBS are running games without a goalie. Anyone that plays this game daily during peak hours will notice and agree.
That doesn't make sense. Lots of people play all modes in this game and aren't tracking the popularity of goalie. You may pay particularly close attention, but again - you are only playing drop-ins. Playing drop-ins is not something elite, league-level goalies are doing.
How would you know how many clubs are running goalies compared to those without if you're not steeped in club games multiple days a week?
thebrazenhead75 wrote:Once again with the video clips? Waste of my time when itâs so obvious to anyone that plays the game consistently who will see all the goals caused by these unnecessary animations.
Providing a simple video clip of what you deem an "unnecessary animation" would give the developers the exact insight they'd need in order to fix the issue you have. Why keep refusing to do that?
thebrazenhead75 wrote:Thatâs the #1 reason people are complaining about in game and on social media platforms.
The #1 reason why people complain on social media is because they get 'likes', 'retweets' and generally positive affirmations from like-minded, social media addicted users who have disdain for the game. Conflating social media interactions with general consensus is a recipe for being incredibly misinformed. Not just in the context of video games, but as a whole; social media incentivises the cesspool of human emotions. Never use it as a metric for anything.
Plus, algorithms keep you locked in echo-chambers. So, if you spend a lot of time discussing the game and how bad it is - the social media gods will ensure you're locked in an environment where that opinion is praised. They want you to keep coming back
thebrazenhead75 wrote:Doese EA need video clips (proof) of sticks going through players, the boards etc? No. Why? Because itâs so obvious to anyone that has been playing the game for years and video clips arenât needed.
Providing clips is not just for the development team. Often times, clips can showcase human error which can then be resolved; resulting in a player getting better outcomes in their games because they provided a clip where they were making a mistake.
In the context of sticks through players, boards and subsequent interactions with the puck - the clips posted on the old forums and the developer interaction and explanations led a lot of us to get a much better understanding of the mechanics at play and the logic being used to present those mechanics in a nuanced and balanced way. I use to LOVE those developer interactions.. but I digress...
thebrazenhead75 wrote:Anyone doesnât need to know anything about goalie controls to know how idiotic removing one tool while duplicating another is. I donât know enough about bathroom renovations but I know how completely IDIOTIC it would be to remove a toilet paper holder with another soap dish. If I hired someone to renovate my bathroom and they did that then I would immediately fire them. The only reason I can think of why nobody at EA has responded to this is because they donât want to admit to such an idiotic mistake.
I don't use the paddle-down mechanic but that likely says more about my goalie skill than anything. That said, are you sure there are two buttons in the goalie controls that do the same desperation save? My understanding is one would be for stacked pad save, the other for blocker/glove desperation save, but I could be wrong.
In any case, regardless of the duplication of the desperation save mechanic and the omission of paddle down - there are a lot of goalies (yourself included) that are having a lot of success playing goalie in NHL 25. As someone who plays on a club who strictly uses a human goalie, we have not noticed at all a decline in human goalies. Looking at leaderboards, there are a lot of very skilled tendies out there.
thebrazenhead75 wrote:Keep defending EA and its many glaring mistakes and all the other problems with this game. The majority of the people that play this game know the truth.
I am not "defending" EA because that implies you are attacking them, which I'm sure you're not meaning to do.
I would absolutely love to see some examples of the "unnecessary animations". It would really go such a long way in helping identify the issues. I think you'd love to contribute to the betterment of the game, no?
thebrazenhead75 wrote:I NEVER said I was playing âamazingâ. Donât use words that I didnât use!
My apologies for using the term 'amazing'. You're right, you did not use that exact terminology but in my defence, an accurate summarization of your description of yourself goaltending would include the word amazing, but again.. not a direct quote. My bad.
Actually I play both drops and clubs as Iâve stated before. I play with A LOT of different players. Some of the best, elites, above average and more. Iâve played with elite league goalies (when I play D) too and actually there are a lot of Elite league goalies that do play drops. How do I know this? Because Iâve played with them and have conversations with them in game.
Again, Iâll ask. Can you honest say youâve never seen your club human goalie let up a goal that wasnât their fault and wasnât the result of an unnecessary animation?
It is so obvious there has been a decline in the amount of human goalies this year and thatâs including clubs. If there was a way to check the leader boards of total club games played as a human goalie last year at approximately this time compared to this year, Iâd bet last year would be a lot more.
In regards to âpaddle downâ. Itâs been removed completely starting with last years game. Itâs impossible to not notice it missing. There are only so many buttons on a controller. Itâs obviously not on the goalie controls screen. So where the F did it go and why? Actually I just checked the goalie controls screen. Desperation Dives (hold) is mapped to R1 AND Square. Pad stack is O. So wtf? Why is DDâs mapped to two buttons?
I have a couple of clips of NHL goalies using it to help prevent 5 hole goals saved on my FB account. Iâll see if I can post them here without it being linked to my actual FB account for personal reasons.
Or, send me a temporary friends request and play a couple of drop ins and/or clubs with me. Then you can see for yourself that at least one of those animation goals (with no fault of mine) will happen within a game or few. Theyâre just so inconsistent and thatâs the problem.
Actually Iâm about to hop on for tonight so Iâll record a couple of games and then post them back here when I have time. Then you can dissect them all you want but I already know what youâll probably say.