Scoring
Backhand, forehand, backhand, goal. I feel trying to make good plays and set up 1T shots, or anything else just seems far less effective than just backhanding for every goal.. it's sad that it can ev...
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EA_Aljo
Community Manager
Community ManagerOnce again with the video clips? Waste of my time when it’s so obvious to anyone that plays the game consistently who will see all the goals caused by these unnecessary animations.
Video clips are the best way to bring about change. This is an incredibly dynamic game. We can't just be told something happened and reproduce it. There are a lot of other details normally and a lot of people aren't going to recognize those. Our developers can watch a clip and have a general idea of what the issue is. That also doesn't mean it's easy to fix though.
Doese EA need video clips (proof) of sticks going through players, the boards etc? No. Why? Because it’s so obvious to anyone that has been playing the game for years and video clips aren’t needed.
We don't need clips of the stick going through the boards. As has been said many times, that is intended. Unfortunately, we're not at a point where players will perfectly avoid objects with their stick. Currently, we would see more issues if we didn't allow the stick to pass through objects/players at specific times. Again, video helps a ton. This is why it's so heavily requested.
Keep defending EA and its many glaring mistakes and all the other problems with this game. The majority of the people that play this game know the truth.
The majority of people playing this game don't post on the forums. It's a very small percentage of the playerbase that does. I'm not saying everyone outside the forums thinks the game is perfect though.
We've never said everything is working as intended. We would love for there to be no issues. It would be amazing if that were the case. The reality is that there are bound to be bugs, glitches, animations that don't always line up or wrong animations playing, etc. Hockey is incredibly complex. It's pretty much impossible to perfectly replicate this sport in a video game. It has it's issues. It also still provides a very competitive and fun game for many of us. People are entitled to defend it just as they are to be negative about it. Especially when we frequently see people blaming the game when it's more about how they're actually playing. Again, the game isn't perfect, but neither are humans. We all make mistakes. This is a hyper-competitive community though and not everyone is going to be accountable for them. Video tells us when an issue is legitimate or if it's human error. We're obviously no strangers to our own mistakes here. I'm not saying there's no fault on our end either and we want to be accountable for those. I have said many times over the years here when something's an issue on our end.
I don’t post clips when certain aspects/problems should be obvious to those that play. Can you honestly say you’ve never seen a goalie make an unnecessary animation that resulted in a goal? I definitely can’t. How anyone didn’t see this while testing and before the release of the game is beyond me. This wasn’t a problem in previous years so something was changed that is causing it this year. I initially thought it was caused by goalie fatigue/the pressure system so I boosted the appropriate attributes yet the problem still exists. I tried changing my style of play for a few games yet the problem still exists. I’m obviously not a developer and don’t know how things work or don’t but what I know is that these animations shouldn’t be happening as frequently and as inconsistently as they do.
Furthermore, I’ve been playing this game and goalie long enough to know when I make a mistake (human error) or not. I do have my share of bad games but overall I’m a very consistent player. These animations are very inconsistent though and happen regardless of me playing great, good, average and below.
It’s not like I’m making this crap up because I have no reason to. I just want a solution.
I don’t post clips when certain aspects/problems should be obvious to those that play.
This is just a copout. An excuse for not wanting to put any effort into actually getting to the root of whatever problem you may have.
Can you honestly say you’ve never seen a goalie make an unnecessary animation that resulted in a goal? I definitely can’t.
Brother - I've never once said "goalies don't make unnecessary animations". What you're failing to grasp is that when animations are selected, there's a logic behind them. Posting a clip would go a LONG way in helping the developers determine the logic that went into the wrong animation selection.
Continuing to refuse to provide these clips, which is incredibly easy, is confusing for me. If you actually wanted things to be fixed, you should be providing examples.
I’m obviously not a developer and don’t know how things work or don’t but what I know is that these animations shouldn’t be happening as frequently and as inconsistently as they do.
As I said above, providing clips gives decs insight into the game logic in the specific scenarios you lay out. I don't understand why this is so hard to grasp.
Copping out by saying "certain aspects/problems should be obvious to those that play" is so frustrating. It's like you just want people to agree with you rather than actually work towards a solution.
I just want a solution.
Then do what's being asked of you to play YOUR part in that solution. Notice how nobody is disputing your claims but rather we're almost begging you to simply provide a single clip? You're the one arguing with everyone about what you're experiencing and we're just asking for a clip to actually see it and you're just refusing and insisting everyone should just know what you're talking about.
Again, I’ll ask. Can you honest say you’ve never seen your club human goalie let up a goal that wasn’t their fault and wasn’t the result of an unnecessary animation?
I've literally never said that.
It is so obvious there has been a decline in the amount of human goalies this year and that’s including clubs.
Show us your metrics being used to come to this conclusion.
It’s impossible to not notice it missing
I play with elite goalies who did not know it was even a thing.
I have a couple of clips of NHL goalies using it to help prevent 5 hole goals saved
Nobody is arguing with you about whether Paddle down is a legit goalie action.
send me a temporary friends request and play a couple of drop ins and/or clubs with me. Then you can see for yourself that at least one of those animation goals (with no fault of mine) will happen within a game or few. They’re just so inconsistent and that’s the problem.
It would be much easier for you to simply utilize the in-game capture feature of your console and post a link to the capture here.
Actually I’m about to hop on for tonight so I’ll record a couple of games and then post them back here when I have time. Then you can dissect them all you want but I already know what you’ll probably say.
I can't wait.
