Ping is between 6 an 8 ms but always lag
Hi! I used in NHL21 the setting find Games <20ms an it worked fine, alle games were shown between 6 an 8 ms. My Ports are open but the players respond total delayd, agein. Whats the problem? If it sh...
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The big question is: How do I connect to a server? When I use the max ping feature at <20 ms i get only games 90% against slovaks and czech players. Ping showes every time between 6 and 10 ms but it's in most games total delayed. When I use the setting <30 ms I get lots of games aginst fins and swedes with a shown ping from 27-30 ms and it's total unplayabele. So when I get 27-30 ms i must connect to a diffrent server than when I hat the 6-10 ms. The next quistion is: what way does the singnal go after I connect to the server? You say the connect will be affected by many thins such as routing, the ISP and more but this should be shown in the ping that displayed in the game. So the real problem must be what happend after the connect to the server on the way to the other player. All other problems should be displayer on the ping screen in the game but my line is totaly flat. I think its clearly a location problem. When I play games aginst player in the north of germany near Hambur I have the problems, when I play games againstt players in the south of germany south of Munich I have problems. I live in the middle near Frankfort and when I play games aginst players in the middle of my country it works fine, so it cant be my problem. I think I live in a grey area where I'm to far fom any server … thats the real problem.
Win or lose, HUT Champions had pretty terrible connection quality (Germany, Central Europe, X1) this weekend for me, it got so bad that I had to restart all my networking gear (something I only do with NHL). As I mentioned in this thread before, every game played differently, the three games I lost my opponent had a clearly better connect, some games I only won because of luck. Furthermore, it showed to me again that the game rewards "bad" gameplay when the connection is laggy, the one player I lost to was just circling in the corner all game long, my players had the typical "fat-man lag" agility and accleration (I have Spark activated btw) where they are unable to attack the puck carrier. The game becomes all about luck then or not making the one defensive mistake, I still think the guys on the Northern Server have a advantage over the ones on the Central Server. What is interesting is that I played against another German player today and lost, we've been playing pretty much against each other in HUT Champions every week and it always comes down to who has the better connect. Today, I surffered from the usual circumstances of bad connects, all my lines were exhausted and yellow with 5 minutes left in the period, he scored on his first D to D One-Timer, I miss wide-open nets, the typical slow poke check where you barely touch the skate and the opponent flops like he was hit hard etc. And this guy lives about 350 km or 217 miles from me (I live in the North-East, he lives more in the West). I know that there is a advantage with P2P when you are hosting (or not hosting, I can't remember) the game, I always thought that this wouldn't matter when it comes playing via a server but I am not so sure anymore. If I had more time I'd run Wireshark and analyze the traffic as some guys did with Fifa but I make the Top 100 anyway each week and I don't think EA would do anything with the results even though they should because I still assume that they are losing a lot of customers in HUT or EASHL.
- @prospero99c I was 13-4 in HUT Champions and the last three games in the evening was terrible, first against a Swede, I had noc chance, lost 9-3, he was quicker and I had the fat man lag again. The I played some guy from Poland twice, firts game I quit after down 5-1 in the first, comletely unplayable. Pin was 27 ms. Second game I lost 8-7 and was better than first but far away from good. Every Crosscrease pass goes through my defenders and 1 min before the end I got that thypical bed connect onetimer goal from faceoff that is undefendebal when you have the bed connect. The ping shown in this game was 8 ms. How can it be thet we are connect to diffrent servers when we are the same players? Explain! I had not one good game but managed 13 wins … some lucky but it has nothing to do with equal fair gameplay
Started playing HUT Champions on Thursday and had to endure three excruciating losses, games which were absolutely unplayable and downright unfair. So I was fed up and started to record the network traffic to get more information.
It's pretty well known that the EA Titles use GVSP (UDP) as the protocol for the Online Gameplay, Fifa uses it as well, they have more servers though. In NHL, I was only able to connect to servers in Stockholm (about 1080km away from my home) and Frankfurt (about 545km). The servers in Stockholm seem to have a range of IP addresses, the server in Frankfurt only has one apparently (is that supposed to be, no load balancing?).
So I started testing searching for games with "Max Avg Ping" 40ms on Friday and Saturday. Was connected to the Stockholm Server, barely won my games, played against a Swede and a Finnish player, connection was not good, but not terrible. Changed "Search Max Avg Ping" to 30ms. Played against a guy and lost even tough I outplayed him, he scored 6 goals in the third period, every shot was a goal. I was surprised that the server had changed to Frankfurt. Changed "Search Max Avg Ping" to 50ms to further test the connection on Saturday 8:30pm. Played against a guy I always lost in the past due to the connection, he usually finished Top 10. This time I won 3:2 (22ms) and got an angry message that EA helped me win the game. Two weeks ago I quit a game against him after getting outscored 2:8 after two periods, it was unplayable.
Afterwards I played against a guy from Germany (27ms) and won 10:7. It was ridiculous, there was no defense possible on both sides. Then, I had a game against a guy from Sweden with 32ms and I knew after two minutes that I would win this game which I did, played smooth and perfect. Was surprised that the server had changed to Stockholm. Today I had another Rivals game which played perfect against a guy from Russia, 30ms on the Swedish server.
For the remaining games I changed the "Search Max Avg Ping" setting to 20ms and I played all my games on the Frankfurt server. None of them had a Average Ping of 20ms, they all had 21,22, highest ping went up to 38ms at times during gameplay. They all played different, in one game I was down 4:1 with 5 minutes to go and won 4:5, some games were extremly slow and I played the German guy again, instead of winning 10:7 I won 4:1, completely different game, way more tight. An opponent send me a message that his players don't turn the way he wants to, he told me was from the UK when I asked him so he probably had a bad connect. The last couple of games had tons of "Packet-Resends", "Range-Errors" and "Block-Dropped" messages in Wireshark for the GVSP traffic as well. But it's all very weird and incoherent, it's very rare that games play perfectly smooth but I can't find a pattern.
