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Re: Will NHL 21 Come Out For PC?

@EA_Aljo 

You're right, calling it a carbon copy is a bit of a stretch, and the team can definitely make great strides like with NHL 20's speed system and continuation of 19's defensive tweaks, but I personally think EA would receive much less flak if they released yearly (or just constant update) patches to a base "EA's NHL" like the community has been requesting instead of full price releases; You can get away with making us pay for them, sure, (though you make enough money in HUT not to but this is beside the point), but I think $30 or $40 is much more reasonable.

As for resolving issues.. it's been near 10 years for basic left right left dekes on goalies to be fixed, 5 years since defensive shot and pass blocking were tuned, and 3 years since the horrid rebound cheesers were toned down. I appreciate all the changes to skating/agility and especially poking, but there are some, what I'd call game-breaking problems that are low priority


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    EA_Aljo
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    6 years ago

    @TTZ_Dipsy 

    Rebounds, of all things, definitely changed this year. I'll agree that they were pretty easy to exploit in previous years, but goalies direct pucks into the corners or out of play a lot more than they used to. Rebounds are a part of hockey. They are also something professional players know how to set up. Just because someone scores on a rebound, it doesn't mean it's an exploit. You have to allow the shot on net and another player to be there to receive the rebound. If someone is constantly using that against you, change your defense to Protect Net and Collapsing. That's not going to stop everything of course. When I play defense and notice teams going for rebounds, I plant myself low in the slot so I'm there to recover them. This is where you need human defenders. The AI defenders aren't recognizing the habits of your opponents. They just play according to what's happening on the ice as well as the strategies you're using. 

    Defensive shot blocks and pass interceptions have been improved. Some would say too much as there have been some complaints about how good they are with 20.

    As far as forehand-backhand dekes on goalies go, that's a pretty legit move in real hockey. You also have to be relatively skilled to pull it off. There are plenty of times someone fails at it as well. If you're more skilled, you should be rewarded though. You're also giving up an excellent scoring chance, most likely through a breakaway. That can be attributed to bad defense. Goalies can only bail you out so much when that happens.

    As far as charging less for an annual update goes, I don't think people realize just how much game development costs. Besides building the game, there's licensing, support, maintaining servers, marketing, etc. There's a ton of costs that go into making the game each year. I get that $60 is a lot for some people, but the price of games hasn't really changed in decades, but everything I mentioned has increased dramatically. There's are often discounts as well as the game moving to the vault in EA Access at some point. I really don't know what the future holds. Of course things could change at some point. Especially with subscription services becoming more popular. So, who knows what will happen? That's not up to me.

  • NateDZD's avatar
    NateDZD
    6 years ago

    @TTZ_Dipsy wrote:


    I personally think EA would receive much less flak if they released yearly (or just constant update) patches to a base "EA's NHL" like the community has been requesting instead of full price releases; You can get away with making us pay for them, sure, (though you make enough money in HUT not to but this is beside the point), but I think $30 or $40 is much more reasonable.


    Could you imagine EA missing out on the opportunity to take 60$ USD from people every year?!

    I'm with you though, this would go a long way to making fans happy. While EA are releasing annual "full" versions of their games, Konami just announced that instead of a full new version of eFootball PES for the 20/21 season, they're releasing a 30$ update to eFootball PES 2020 while focusing their development team's attention on the 2022 release. There's no way we'd see that kind of thing with FIFA. One can dream though.

    I for one believe that these sport games would be much improved by the publisher doing something like that. I'd happily purchase a 30$ update to NHL 20 that does little more than refresh a few things, patch some bugs, update rosters, clean up menus, and change player models. Especially if it meant that NHL 22 would be a truly creative upgrade worthy of a 60$ price tag.

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