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It has been much more often and for longer periods of time since this March for me. And for Aljo, I’m not only interested in testing. But I’m here to make this a better game all around. This means I want to speak with the managers. So back to my questions to you, do you even play this game? Yes or no. And can you get me in touch with the managers supervisors and or ceo. If you won’t or can’t, I will do it myself. I am very serious about what I have said. And very clear on the flaws in design. I am done with half games. EA SPORTS STANDS FOR ELECTRONIC ARTS. BUT IT CAN ALSO STAND FOR ERROR AGAIN SPORTS. EA NEEDS BETTER LEADERSHIP. I DONT CARE ABOUT ANY OTHER GAME AT THE MOMENT, MY FOCUS IS ON HOCKEY ONLY, FOR YOU TO REPLY ONLY THIS, TELLS ME YOU DONT CARE MUCH TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THINGS. WHICH TELLS ME THAT YOU ALSO HAVE BEEN HERE WAY TOO LONG. IM HERE TO GET IT DONE COMPLETED AND TO FIX THINGS FOR GOOD. WHAT ARE YOU HERE FOR? I don’t want to be mean. But you are being passive and it’s not how you get things properly done. If this is the plan for EA to pretend to get things done, with only one patch in 6 months, and to drag the same unfinished game for the next ten years, I think putting pressure on the NHL and lawyers. This sounds bad, it nothing worse to be misled. Like I said. I am VERY SERIOUS. I WILL MAKE THIS GAME BETTER WITH OR WITHOUT YOU. NO MORE FOOLING AROUND. PEOPLE NEED TO BE FIRED BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN THERE TOO LONG WITHOUT GETTING THINGS DONE. FINAL. It’s nice you are here long time Aljo, but what does that bring to the game? Do you play nhl 21 or not? Any answer is fine with me.
I have been playing this game for more than 20 years. It's the reason why I wanted to work for EA to begin with.
Feedback here is seen by the development team. You can also post it over at the official forums. It would also be good if you detailed your issues using paragraphs. That would make your post far easier to read. As far as contacting a manager goes, they wouldn't be able to help as what you're doing is providing feedback. Changes aren't going to be made overnight based on your suggestions. Feedback is gathered and seen by the dev team to be considered for future updates and releases. One of the best ways to get your feedback heard is to be a part of the playtesting program. However, if that's not of interest to you, posting here and on the official forums are your best options.
- 4 years ago
Well if you have so much experience playing the game because you love it so much you decided to work with them as well, so what the terrible programming and design shouldn’t be a surprise to you. If you don’t say anything against your own, you are part of the problem as well. Am I right? I know I am, but would you agree that you play probably the biggest role because you see first hand what people say about the game for 20 years.
you are right, paragraphs would have been a better choice. It was a long impulse of what I am dealing with playing the game. Which is something you should be doing because you are a user for 20 years and someone that should have influence.
now my issue here is lack of leadership. And I will tell you that people need to lose their jobs. This is without question. My intentions here is to not hurt anyone, but to stop the crap, because like you there are many that have been playing since pc came out until console hockey, until ea hockey’s start. And I never saw ANY depth. No soul. And this means, bad leadership. There were always big gaps missing in the actual inal product. Wether it was in game play or menu. Lack of user control. Lack of stats. As if the game was pushed onto us as their own idea of what hockey is all about.
I will make this game better in one year. Either the same programmer is still there or another comes in and knows how to do it, it something someone has to change. It most of all. The one approving has to go. Maybe after 20 years you yourself should say something. You do know hockey right?
how can you gain the trust or even how can EA look at themselves and say we did a good job when you don’t even include the simplest thing like shutouts in hut? How? How is that possible? How can it be please explain to me? That is pathetic. This alone.,. That is where you know leadership is none existent for EA hockey, I cant talk for any other game. I can for certain on iPad. I can talk about battlefield 3. But besides that, hockey since 1991, this is 30 years? You can correct me if I am wrong. What have they learned? Making a face is nice, making the player with their coloured stick is nice. But people don’t play with their faces. The game has to be consistent.
the passing is not complete. It is bad. EA HAS basically lied to ALL users of nhl 21 by selling them the game that has no passing. Now, what makes fun hockey or any other game? I’ll tell you. Full control. Being able to make a decision a move and that is exactly what happens. With nhl 21, it is UNACCEPTABLE, I can tell you that throughout the game of 60 minutes I go through so many situations that I didn’t want to happen. Passes, shots, miss hits, penalties, dumps, even goals I didn’t mean, this is embarrassing, and once again, someone actually approved this, IN 2021. This creates frustration, more than fun. You are losing the commitment of new comers.
you told me to game test, sure I’m all in. I’m here game testing for almost 4 months, I have played or been signed in the game more than anyone that owns the game, if you have statistics, or your bosses do, they can see I have been in the game longer than anyone who owns it. Well I have a list of things that needs to be fixed. I have solutions as well. Changes to be made and things that is just missing to build on top of what is already good. I am a perfectionist and I want the best. Give me one game, I won’t sleep for one year to make the best hockey ever made in the history of hockey games and the history of EA hockey games.
instead of you not helping me or pushing for me to reach out to your superiors, this tells me you don’t care that much, I am not common, I’m here to really make this game complete. And I will lead a team and be successful at it. If you love the game, you’ll love it more once it goes through me. You will want the stain I leave on EA HOCKEY, I don’t want someone else’s job, I just want one year, place the foundation of every hockey game for EA hockey, and then the Same people can tinkle with it, but the foundation is missing good leadership. The game is incomplete. And I won’t shy away from saying that. Because it is a shock to my soul.
I want to bring up something small but obvious. The customizations, changing a player is customization, okay I guess it’s an added thing we can buy and trade, but still it should be something to have control over by default. But I guess that is okay.... right? I’m okay with that. But to only have goalie masks? So for an entire year there is only goalie masks and numbers which like I said should be something you are in control of in your lineup. So why not goalie equipment? Waiting for next year? Didn’t have time? What are the people at EA doing? Working on other games? Not enough people working at EA to add this for their users? What about skates? Like Gretzky’s skates? You have this when creating a player in menu of the game? Why isn’t it in hut? What is EA’s priority? Don’t they want people to be happy? Don’t they get it that people that play hockey are people that are tight like a family. They want it and they want it badly, why do they wait for it? How hard is it to add sticks, pads, trapper, gloves, other style helmets, player skates? When you start hut rush and you see the preview of each opponents team making poses before the match, THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT TO EA? The time put for this should be put in the game. Not for show. Like i said, it lies in the lack of leadership. Give people what they want and not what the idea of what a few think we want at EA. I told you many of my cousins stopped playing EA hockey, friends stopped playing EA hockey, why? I ask myself why. Is EA? I’ll help EA. But they have to listen.
first, start with adding shutouts in hut, a small patch can fix that. And I won’t get into everything now and here again, but I will say, that the more you give to make people happy, the more will be playing more often, if the passing was fixed, less frustration, and less cursing between users that have lost unfairly because of game flaws. You or no one can be a pro with a flawed game like this, it is too inconsistent, in all areas of the game. I have lost games, like last night where I’m trying to make a move to get my left handed player to go up the right side instead of my left winger that is in my right wing spot that is a right hand. I care about shutouts more than scoring 20 goals. Hitting is hitting I don’t care what planet you are from, it will cause a bruise. Checking many times you see the player literally bounce off the player as if he has a force field he doesn’t even touch the player but bounces off empty space. It’s strange. But I have been scored on many times ruining my game and I’m just saying to myself it’s okay don’t be upset it’s EA hockey. This is my serenity now moment. When you’re checking hard and it’s not even budging the player that is 5’9. The fun factor is gone. People put down their controllers or just go to the other game that they have fun with. Because ultimately, people paid you to have fun. And this is what you have to burn into your minds. 1-1 game is fun, that is consistent in design, 10-2 game is not that much fun,
I want to speak with someone that is in charge of the game and go through with them so that in ONE year the game is better in MY VIEW, with MY LEADERSHIP. then they can take over. They had their chance for 30 years, I only need 1. I want no credit. Don’t put my name anywhere. I only want to present the defects, what’s missing, what should be added on top of what is good and what to NOT touch or alter. I want to make 1 BEST EA HOCKEY EVER. and you can charge me every year for the same game and I’ll pay, but not for this crap. Charging half price is the proof of the level they believe in in their work. No way Jose, I will charge full price because it’s THE BEST. AND YOU MUST OWN ONE! FINAL.
I HAVE VIDEOS GALORE, i would like to know what are the limits in time and size that I can include in one of these question answers? I would like to make a one page thing to show all the issues with video. And it can get heavy, I want to show that it’s not a glitch but a design fault. So multiple videos on the same Issue is what I intend to do. What do you recommend Aljo?
thanks for taking my everything. You are used to it I’m sure in 20 years. But this time someone has to do it, I’m sure you won’t admit it but the game is incomplete. And not very cared for. The biggest critics should be ourselves about ourselves. That should be the culture at least for EA hockey, like I said, I won’t sleep one year to make one hockey and I’ll play with developers all day long only to root out the flaws and less for having fun for the future of this franchise. You should be happy to hear that Aljo.
thanks,
- EA_Aljo4 years ago
Community Manager
Thank you for all the feedback.
Shutouts are very possible in HUT. I tend to see them every day. One of the requirements for the 94 Style Icon is getting 11 shutouts. If they weren't possible, this wouldn't be a requirement.
Can you get some video of passes not going where you're aiming? Make sure the controller overlay is on-screen. You get this by hitting Y or Triangle during the replay. You're welcome to provide video of any issues you have with the game. This is the best way to communicate what you'd like to see change.
You're welcome to post on the official forums here. Developers pay close attention to the forums. We also report constructive feedback to them.
As far as customization goes, hopefully, that will expand over time. There are some restrictions though. We can't just include any branded item we want. There are licensing rights that need to be acquired first.
- 4 years ago
Hey, the shutouts I was talking about was in the HUT team stats section. This is something that should have been included by default. EA has ALWAYS been weak on stats and deep into details. Less options and less control. It has ALWAYS been like that. This was one of the fundamental reasons I decided to play nhl 2k5 for 15 years. Modernized graphics and that game would be the best hockey. It was ground breaking for hockey. The AI behaviour was unbelievable. There is just so much that I know has been taken from that hockey game and integrated into the new EA hockey,
stats should be deep, last ten games should always be available when going into a players card. It’s fun, it’s motivating, it gets people more involved with their team. Switching the player to another line, seeing their progression, it’s a stimulus that seems EA doesn’t think deeply to understand the affects and addiction the user has to stats and THEIR personal performances. So like I was saying, shutouts stats is NOT in the stats section of my HUT team. This should be added. And yes it would be nice if it was added this year. It’s not hard I’m sure.
you misunderstood me, I was saying how incredible for EA not to include the statistic “shutout” in the stats section for my HUT team. When I do get a shutout, I would like to see how many shutouts I got with my goalies. I know they are possible to get and I already completed the 11 shutout objective. If you had price as your goalie in HUT, tell me how many shutouts he had? Can you or not? You know what I mean? It’s just not there, and this is what is impossible, how EA didn’t even add that in the game. This is why I was saying leadership is missing, but the potential is there. And what is missing really is me. I’m nothing, I am dust. But when I love something and I want it to be the best I won’t sleep. I have 10 synergies, 5 team, but I can make it 13 with a couple of changes. But I don’t want certain players. That movie “ a beautiful mind” that guy that’s there on the wall figuring out numbers and finding codes, getting to the bottom of things. Just getting the answer, I did it, I can say I have 13 synergies, I planned for it. I don’t think many can say that. And I had this for maybe a month now.
I just want this game to be more complete and I want to speak one on one with someone that doesn’t see me as a commoner but someone that is clear minded, focused on what is doable, I see the issues, BIG TIME, I was never one that cared about graphics, let someone do that, for me it’s the actual gameplay, and stats. I also have a new game mode for HUT that I want to discuss, I think it will make more people involved with their teams and will be in the NHL game for longer periods of time, so more longer play time in ea hockey than for them to leave and play another game. This is was your passion 20 years ago, this was my passion as well. I just always thought it would be okay in someone else’s hands but I was wrong, and now I’m here. And I want to do what is right,
Yes of course, I made videos with the directional pad showing, tons, I have let’s say 100, I can just start adding them here? One by one? I want to make it organized. I was going to make a YouTube video and show step by step what to do to make HUT better. This will take time though. Because there is so much, offline and menu and so on. But at least I can show the game play and flaws. And how the game was accepted to go on. I have questions like, why have stats always been a last priority for EA, and why do they decide to not make it part of any hockey game? I want to understand the reason? It cannot be that something so easy to be left out? Is it laziness? Does EA think it’s just not so important? Does it take too much time? I truly want to understand why it’s not included and what is the reasoning behind this decision. I want the reasoning before anything else to understand. It doesn’t make sense to me. But if it’s done with other companies, and on games from 2005, why not in 2021? The psychological effect stats has on the mind is more powerful than the game itself. As the lead, I would push that to be integrated into all my franchise games, do it once and copy paste on every years game. Stats is a must, and will boost players commitment, I guarantee it or you can tie me up a shoot pucks at me 2021 times.
As for the customizations, they are already there, you have them in franchise mode of when building creating a player. You have helmets, why not pass or gloves, you have all the licensing. It’s on the boards in game. Companies are happy to have their name in your game. Why it’s not available in HUT, this is not normal,
something I will ask again, do you know and if not, can you find out, how many minutes, gigs, can I include when I start making videos to show the flaws and solutions to the game? Everything I say is constructive, there is a solution at the end. The most constructive thing of all is putting egos aside, yes I can make the game better from what I see and play, but I’m never better Than anyone else. Also, even if I had final say, I would and will always ask the team what anyone thought and what they can bring to the table. But I know that I have the ability to know what I better than not.
thanks Aljo.