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rayniestzi's avatar
5 years ago

New Pogo is not great

I have been a member for 20 yrs. I'm so unhappy with this new pogo. Can't find my friends or play games with them. Chat rooms hold way to many people can't have a conversation because it moves to fast and because of tourneys. Bowling is gone. big big problem for me. I 'm not renewing if this is is how it's gonna be. I feel so isolated from all the friends I've met on here. DCR couldn't get the hosts rooms to load. This new site just sucks. A huge waste of my money. Have to pay a yearly fee, buy gems, buy badges. Should I just hand over my wallet? NOPE NOT STAYING

RaynIest

[CM edit: removed curse word from the title. Please stick to the forum rules]

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  • abbycattx's avatar
    abbycattx
    Hero+
    14 days ago

    abc974306894​ 

    Hello! There seems to be a bit of confusion between modern and legacy technologies. I encourage you to consult with an IT professional and additionally conduct independent research to verify the information I’m about to share.

    "I actually have to use java and flash for work. If java and flash was fazed out the Internet would be gone. Over 95% of the Internet relies on java and flash"

    This is a common misconception. Flash and Java have been largely phased out from mainstream web use, though they still exist in niche or legacy environments. Your company may be operating with legacy infrastructure alongside modern technology, which can understandably lead to confusion.

    Legacy Infrastructure vs. The Worldwide Web

    Your company’s environment: If they’re still using Java + Flash, it’s almost certainly for internal legacy programs.

    The worldwide web: Modern websites run on JavaScript, HTML5, and modern frameworks, not Flash or Java applets. 

    These are two different ecosystems: Internal legacy systems vs. The modern global web.

    Companies still relying on legacy systems built with Flash or Java, are facing increasing pressure to comply with licensing rules and cybersecurity standards, or risk heavy fines and audits.

    Adobe Flash: End of Support
    Officially discontinued: Adobe ended support for Flash on December 31, 2020.

    Blocked by browsers: Modern browsers (Chrome, Firefox, Edge) disabled Flash entirely by early 2021.

    Security risk: Without updates, any remaining installations are highly exploitable.

    Flash usage dropped from millions of websites to near-zero. It’s now considered a security risk and is no longer supported in any modern browser.


    Oracle Java: Unsupported Versions
    Versions affected: Java 6, 7, 8, and 11 are no longer supported for free public updates.

    Security exposure: These versions contain unpatched vulnerabilities that attackers actively exploit.

    Java still plays a role in backend systems, enterprise applications, and embedded platforms, but it’s no longer part of the public-facing mainstream web use.

    Java Applets and the Web: Blocked by default - Chrome, Firefox, Edge, and Safari have removed support for NPAPI plugins, which Java applets relied on.

    This was a significant and historic shift in web technology. 

    • Adobe officially ended support for Flash in December 2020
    • Most major browsers stopped supporting Flash by the end of 2020
    • Java applets are essentially obsolete in modern web browsers

     

    💡HTML5 is not a Flash-Java hybrid, it's a completely different web standard that provides native support for multimedia and graphical content without plugins. While these technologies were once widespread, they've been largely replaced by:

    • HTML5 → structure and multimedia
    • JavaScript → interactivity and logic
    • WebAssembly → near-native performance for complex applications
    • CSS3 → styling and responsive design
    • Modern Web APIs → access to features like storage, geolocation, notifications, and hardware integration

     

    In short: HTML5 is a completely different standard, not a Flash-Java hybrid. The modern web ecosystem relies on open technologies like HTML5, JavaScript, WebAssembly, CSS3, and APIs — while Flash and Java applets have been retired for good due to security, performance, and compatibility issues, and are no longer part of the worldwide web.

    Modern web technologies are more secure, faster, and cross‑platform, ensuring accessibility across desktops, mobile devices, and emerging platforms. Most IT departments have been actively migrating away from Flash and Java applets for years to avoid an unexpected cybersecurity wake‑up call. *With the rise of AI, Legacy users will be even at a greater risk.

    “Pogo could go back to Flash and Java”

    Technically, they cannot: Modern browsers no longer support Flash or Java plugins.

    Pogo (and other gaming platforms) cannot revert to Flash or Java, those technologies are no longer supported by mainstream browsers and would pose legal, regulatory, and security challenges. Just as OSHA enforces workplace safety standards, web standards now serve as the "digital safety" requirements for public sites. These standards are designed to protect users from security vulnerabilities and ensure compliance with global regulations.

    Pogo’s redesign wasn’t just cosmetic. They invested significant time and resources to ensure the site is secure, modern, and aligned with best practices. As a player myself, this is exactly what I want from any gaming site or company I trust with my information 🙂Thank you for raising this topic, it’s an important conversation, and I know it will help others now and in the future!

    🌟Because this posting is now 5 years old and the EA Community Manger EA_Leeloo has retired. We need to lock this posting to avoid violating the EA Forum rules of NecropostingPlease start a new posting on this topic if you would like. Thank you for your understanding.

  • abc974306894's avatar
    abc974306894
    Rising Newcomer
    14 days ago

    Problem is flash and java isn't fazed out like they say it is. It's actually still around. Because I actually have to use java and flash for work.

    If java and flash was fazed out the Internet would be gone. Over 95% of the Internet relies on java and flash

    HTML5 which they say it's a totally different service is not what they say it is. 

    HTML5 is just a flash and java program combo. 

    They could also bring back the Pogo mini mall if they want to. They fazed that out because they thought it wasn't making any money

    So if Pogo wanted to go back to java and flash they can. But they don't want to because they are trying to faze the site out.

    I see Pogo be fazed out by 2030

  • cafedelon's avatar
    cafedelon
    New Ace
    5 years ago

    All the comments voicing dissatisfaction with the new Pogo website are true.  This is not the same Pogo site anymore except in name only.  I wish there was a way to bring back the way Pogo operated in the past but I doubt that will ever happen.  Even with Flash and Java games being gone, this could be a good game site again.  I would return as a paying member If EA had new mini items that worked on the New Pogo pages, if they had chat that was more user friendly, and if they had games that looked like they were designed for adults rather than kids. I'm glad that EA allows non-paying members to play games here (with commercial interruptions) but there are only a handful of the HMTL-5 games here now that I enjoy, AND many of them basically require using gems to buy power-ups to complete the games.  I would rather EA returns the Pogo game site to the way it operated a few years ago and raise their membership price instead of the way it is operating now. 

    However, EA has changed the Pogo game site into their vision of what Pogo should be.  As you can see from the comments posted at the Answers HQ pages, that is not what many paying members want.  I think the Pogo site is not a big money maker for EA, so they may not want to invest more effort and time into making it better than it is.  And while these forum pages can serve for people to leave their opinions and suggestions here, I don't see many changes that address the wishes of the playing public. If nothing changes, undoubtedly the number of people playing here will continue to decrease.  When I first came to the Pogo game site 4 years ago there were 50,000 people here every night.  Old-timers from years ago tell me there used to be 100,000 people here and waiting lines to join in the games because the servers couldn't keep up with the demand.  Look at the number of players here at night now.  Sometimes the number is over 30,000 but often it is less than that.  The number of people here now is close to half of what it was 4 years ago when I joined.  Perhaps when the number of players drops significantly more the Pogo site will be shut down. 

  • Very true..Hate the changes..Have friend in new thing and I click to play same game and I go to old rooms..Does not show them in rooms there.And I can't get to new game where they are..Bunch of crap.

  • NO this does not make me happy or solve the problem. You can't have a converstation with 50 +people in a room. Can't talk with tours going on chat moves way to fast.  Doesn't solve the problem of my wallet being emptied for EVERYTHING. What is the point of the yearly fee?? I get nothing. I have to buy power ups, i have to buy badges. Too much money for a site that is totally screwed up now. Games for kids. Not adults. Censored words that make no since. Like saying "ss" to somone who had a bad game...really? "crap" too? I mean come on people. 

    I'm done. 

    Rayniest

  • EA_Leeloo's avatar
    EA_Leeloo
    Icon for EA Staff (Retired) rankEA Staff (Retired)
    5 years ago

    @Brownsfan55 @rayniestzi,

    I understand that you enjoyed talking to your friends and are worried that with Flash going away, you won't be able to talk to your friends anymore. But that is not the case, fortunately. You can still stay in touch using the chat system on the new Pogo experience. 🙂 

    You can access it from the bottom of the game menu on the right side of the screen. 

    When you join chat, you're automatically placed in one of several available rooms. If you have any friends playing, you will automatically be placed in the same room as them when you join. You can easily hop between the different rooms by clicking on the room name at the top.

    You can easily connect with old friends (and make new ones, of course). When you click on another player's avatar, it will bring up additional information, along with "Add Friend", "Report" and "Block" options.

    If you want to find out more, you can head over to this Pogo blog post on chat. 

    - Leeloo

  • I totally agree with you. Pogo used to be fun, I miss my friends also. It's sad. 

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