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majakovskibg
6 years ago
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Shield buster - the most stupid improvement in the game

Shield buster is the worst improvement in the game ever!!! No more chance to win if you are not a hacker or if you don't play 24 hours. Umbrella buster is useless now. I activate umbrella buster and ...
  • NerfProbe's avatar
    NerfProbe
    6 years ago

    Hacking has ruined the game.  It’s bad, VERY BAD, and goes on unchecked.  This needs to be dealt with in a serious manner EA.  I’m thinking New Years resolution: either you fix the problem your way or my paying account fixes the problem my way.  Driving paying CoM customers into the arms of hackers is added insult.  It’s as if someone senior on the dev team is pro-hacker.

    Shield buster is just an “I win” button for hackers.  They have endless war items and throw it and magnetism around endlessly with their hacked level 15 attacks in their hacked low level cities with all 5 regions unlocked.  You broke your own game, EA.  FIX IT.

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PinnacleValley
6 years ago

@Duckups  Our club was inadvertently thrown into the war game when one of our international players accidentally hit the green start button and of course there’s nothing you can do at that point...for some it was a first time experience for others we had chosen not to participate for a variety of reasons (for me just plain boredom from the “strategy”). I shared with our guys what would happen and explained they didn’t need to do anything that everything would reset in 36 hours, just participate in CoM as best you can and enjoy the game. For the most part everyone did great with one exception that I will not address except to say they got an extra 36 hours and after considering for those 36 hours were given the opportunity to stay until the end of CoM, which they chose not to and missed out on the legendary chest...

It was not our opponent’s fault we were there so the competitor in me would not hide...I had no war items but I did have some left over war coins and got busy on war assignments. It wasn’t pretty but 3 or 4 of us made it worth their while and I made a point to hit everyone that fired a shot and in turn they responded in kind and the juices started flowing and I clearly recalled why I really enjoyed the game...the team we played obviously rewarded me for my kindness and I experienced the shield buster and found it to be an interesting solution (just a note for our competitors, you might want to save those for folks that aren’t coming out of the bubble...and wait till they’re bubbled before launching the shield buster). I spent a small fortune that week on the war game and the legendary chest but it was well worth it because I manned up and faced my challengers and gave them what they signed up for...something the bubble boys will never comprehend. As I shared with our President, when life gives you lemons...throw those suckers at them...

Cheaters and hackers must be dealt with now...time for the big boys ain’t the suits to recognize that “naming and shaming” is so far from their biggest liability and man up and address it...quit invoking the “strategy” (run & hide) and deal with it while you still can.

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ASAP1717
6 years ago

@PinnacleValley You keep saying hide and seek vs what it is now with shield buster. In reality it's strategy vs no strategy now. It's simply a matter of which side has better attacks and spends the most. Not sure why you think that is fun or better.

  • PinnacleValley's avatar
    PinnacleValley
    6 years ago

    @ASAP1717  Really, you’re the same individual in October that wrote in the “No to Shield Busters” thread and I quote “You are a total douche bag, some of us have lives and don't want to sit on the map for 24-36 hours. * off.”  I ignored you then as it wasn’t addressed to me (as most folks did) and because quite frankly it wasn’t relevant.

    Since you directed your comment to me I will simply share that the selfish and self centered actions of these “run & hide” strategists have resulted in hundreds of folks (that I’m aware of) walking away from the war games from sheer boredom. Inevitably someone will try to convince someone / anyone that it’s a legitimate strategy to race to the bubble with the lead and hide. Quite frankly in my War Games experience I have never lost to a bubble team and actually found clubs that choose this path to be the easiest to defeat...but also the most painful. The game is suppose to be fun but this approach certainly zapped the fun out of it for many.

    Now faced with a viable corrective counter measure to the strategy many come seeking empathy...to the contrary, it does my heart good to see the “strategy” boys feeling a little of the pain their collective actions created for many. Yes some adjustments need to be made to the shield busters but perhaps the 10 man teams need to adapt and evolve and learn multiple strategies...not just one.

    • NerfProbe's avatar
      NerfProbe
      6 years ago

      @PinnacleValley  Please provide us all with an EA sanctioned date we can mark on our calendars for when the hacking of war items will end and the banning of hacked cards will begin.

      Without that the argument of “shield buster is fine without hacking” is dead on arrival.

      • PinnacleValley's avatar
        PinnacleValley
        6 years ago

        @roccodonovan8  Thanks for clarifying for the writer..don’t know why they mistake us for EA employees, neither of us request xp’s. @NerfProbe  I can’t provide a date when it will happen if ever, but I can define the event...when the liability exceeds the required investment. 

        Addressing the real purpose of your post you didn’t like my response to @ASAP1717  which is great (I appreciate different opinions) and by your awarding an xp and subsequent rhetorical question it’s a pretty clear indicator you’re a run and hide proponent. If you didn’t like what I shared, you really don’t want to read my prior response to @Duckups in this thread when I shared how a true competitor responds when faced with adversity yet respects his competitors enough to show up and play. 

        Here is the true bottom line...it’s all about respect and the inevitable fact that what goes around eventually comes around - sometimes Karma is lovely.

    • ASAP1717's avatar
      ASAP1717
      6 years ago

      @PinnacleValleyI know for a fact hundreds (thousands? ) of teams have completely quit since shield buster was instituted. Why? Because they aren't morons that get it's not fun and there is ZERO strategy as it's currently constructed. The previous format allowed teams that weren't as strong to compete and sometimes have really exciting wars. Explain how there is strategy now when a team can use shield buster UNLIMITED amount of times. There is literally none, the point was to win or lose not waste simeoleans on pointless wars with crappy rewards (exactly what the developer wants). Now it favors those who spend money and/or have no lives and you can't argue differently. My team & I aren't coming back until it's limited or removed.

      • PinnacleValley's avatar
        PinnacleValley
        6 years ago

        @Duckups  You are correct the wars need to be shorter as we’ve discussed before (I’m shocked EA hasn’t figured out the financial benefit of this yet), the shield busters are a viable solution to the boredom...although as I stated before they need to be limited in 2 aspects, the total number a club / individual can launch during a war and the number of times and frequency a city can be for no better term “busted”. Hackers and cheaters on the other hand completely abuse the system and not just shield busters but that’s the focus today because folks can no longer hide...just a thought, why not take full advantage and collect the inexpensive war items readily available by simple repairs until you come across a non hacker war?

        @ASAP1717  I certainly will not question the creditability of your number of folks that have walked away due to shield busters which is a good thing because it’s a trigger to @NerfProbe  unanswerable question, this certainly is a liability (loss of revenue) that starts the conversation. To clarify I never said unlimited shield busters was a strategy...but you must admit it’s quite effective. I have stated clearly that “run & hide” is absolutely not a strategy but a limited game plan that relies heavily on mistakes from your opponents...a foot race to the bubble. A well coordinated club will never lose to this approach and honestly many top teams reverted in kind to save resources. This created absolute boredom especially for folks who actually have a life and could only participate in one war per week during the weekend...folks simply wanting to relieve a little of life’s stress and figuratively blow something up and the selfish, self centered individuals that invoked this approach created great disappointment and frustration for really good people so they could WIN...the only thing they earned was disdain. 

        As a young man I played on a very good basketball team and a few teams decided to invoke this “strategy” also known as the 4 corners and our Coach who happened to be the Assistant Football Coach invoked a corrective strategy...our shield buster so to speak. With 12 players with 5 fouls each we had 55 to give away and since most of us played football we were well adept at making them count...never took more than 25 to correct that strategy. My point is you have to learn how to compete (forget the hackers) or simply take the loss and go home.

  • J6niceL's avatar
    J6niceL
    6 years ago

    @ASAP1717 

    Even without shield buster, the team with better disasters still win. If the enemy gets way more points from your cities as compared to you, he is still going to win the bubble war, you know.

    And I disagree that the with shield buster, it is not fun. Wars now are so fun. There is this excitement that we never know who is the winner until the end. We got 40k lead and lost at the end before. We had also turned things around and won the wars before. This is how competition should be like. Not hiding after the lead to win the game. Do you see any games where one side just goes, “Okay, we call it a day now that we have the lead,” even before halftime?

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