Sims 2 vs Sims 4

"nanashi-sims;13817744" wrote:
If TS4 had the TS2 development team, it would be a near perfect game. The issues with TS4 is blurred vision, poor management decisions, and lack of talent. Nowadays everyone and their cousin can be a "programmer", a "digital artist", or a "game developer"--talent is not a requirement and neither is passion.

When you combine all of these factors, the result is a shiny game which lacks personality.

TS2 had a clear vision, able direction, and a highly skilled and passionate dev team. If these devs had just rewritten TS2 for TS4 and threw in TS3 elements like open world, CASt, and the ability to have as much content as you wanted without crashing the game. We wouldn't *need* a TS5.

I'm beginning to fear it's a matter of budget rather than talent.

"nanashi-sims;13817744" wrote:
If TS4 had the TS2 development team, it would be a near perfect game. The issues with TS4 is blurred vision, poor management decisions, and lack of talent. Nowadays everyone and their cousin can be a "programmer", a "digital artist", or a "game developer"--talent is not a requirement and neither is passion.

When you combine all of these factors, the result is a shiny game which lacks personality.

TS2 had a clear vision, able direction, and a highly skilled and passionate dev team. If these devs had just rewritten TS2 for TS4 and threw in TS3 elements like open world, CASt, and the ability to have as much content as you wanted without crashing the game. We wouldn't *need* a TS5.

Add tht to s4 cas, s4 build mode, s4 walk styles, s4 UI and s4 emotions and it might make an impressive sims 5.
Also if they made the graphics less like 2 & 3 by improving them a little.
Altho i still prefer s4 gameplay it'd be an intresting idea to try & play.

I never had the Sims 2 base by itself, I bought it in a pack that included Nightlife, so I'm not sure how it compares purely base to base. But since I have one EP for Sims 4 now too, I can compare 1 EP to 1 EP in. I like some things Sims 4 has added and there are definite improvements in overall look (although I don't like the oversaturated look of the environments and the lack of fine details). But for gameplay, I love Sims 2 more. I feel compelled to do what they are asking to do, and I enjoy fulfilling their wishes because there is a point. In Sims 4, there is no real impetus to do anything. Yeah, you get a check mark, but there's no ultimate fulfillment in it for me.

"emmaning;13817809" wrote:

"nanashi-sims;13817744" wrote:
If TS4 had the TS2 development team, it would be a near perfect game. The issues with TS4 is blurred vision, poor management decisions, and lack of talent. Nowadays everyone and their cousin can be a "programmer", a "digital artist", or a "game developer"--talent is not a requirement and neither is passion.

When you combine all of these factors, the result is a shiny game which lacks personality.

TS2 had a clear vision, able direction, and a highly skilled and passionate dev team. If these devs had just rewritten TS2 for TS4 and threw in TS3 elements like open world, CASt, and the ability to have as much content as you wanted without crashing the game. We wouldn't *need* a TS5.

Add tht to s4 cas, s4 build mode, s4 walk styles, s4 UI and s4 emotions and it might make an impressive sims 5.
Also if they made the graphics less like 2 & 3 by improving them a little.
Altho i still prefer s4 gameplay it'd be an intresting idea to try & play.

If Sims 5 has Sims 4 walk styles that on its own will be a reason for me to be not interested anymore. Same goes for the emotions. The emotions are just there for some gameplay but nothing else. Nothing deeper. And the UI isn't improvement at all.

CAS is nice (though still way too limited) and building mode is a dream that becomes a nightmare once you discover there's no CASt.

To me Sims4 is a travesty of the franchise . There is way too much wrong with it and it seems like its a childs version or really lightweight . Sims 2 for me kept me the most interested and occupied

"JoAnne65;13817824" wrote:

"emmaning;13817809" wrote:

"nanashi-sims;13817744" wrote:
If TS4 had the TS2 development team, it would be a near perfect game. The issues with TS4 is blurred vision, poor management decisions, and lack of talent. Nowadays everyone and their cousin can be a "programmer", a "digital artist", or a "game developer"--talent is not a requirement and neither is passion.

When you combine all of these factors, the result is a shiny game which lacks personality.

TS2 had a clear vision, able direction, and a highly skilled and passionate dev team. If these devs had just rewritten TS2 for TS4 and threw in TS3 elements like open world, CASt, and the ability to have as much content as you wanted without crashing the game. We wouldn't *need* a TS5.

Add tht to s4 cas, s4 build mode, s4 walk styles, s4 UI and s4 emotions and it might make an impressive sims 5.
Also if they made the graphics less like 2 & 3 by improving them a little.
Altho i still prefer s4 gameplay it'd be an intresting idea to try & play.

If Sims 5 has Sims 4 walk styles that on its own will be a reason for me to be not interested anymore. Same goes for the emotions. The emotions are just there for some gameplay but nothing else. Nothing deeper. And the UI isn't improvement at all.

CAS is nice (though still way too limited) and building mode is a dream that becomes a nightmare once you discover there's no CASt.

You can set the walk styles as the default everyone walks the same one ofc.
The emotions are good tho. I love the UI it's a real improvement. The emotions add nice gameplay.

"emmaning;13817839" wrote:

"JoAnne65;13817824" wrote:

"emmaning;13817809" wrote:

"nanashi-sims;13817744" wrote:
If TS4 had the TS2 development team, it would be a near perfect game. The issues with TS4 is blurred vision, poor management decisions, and lack of talent. Nowadays everyone and their cousin can be a "programmer", a "digital artist", or a "game developer"--talent is not a requirement and neither is passion.

When you combine all of these factors, the result is a shiny game which lacks personality.

TS2 had a clear vision, able direction, and a highly skilled and passionate dev team. If these devs had just rewritten TS2 for TS4 and threw in TS3 elements like open world, CASt, and the ability to have as much content as you wanted without crashing the game. We wouldn't *need* a TS5.

Add tht to s4 cas, s4 build mode, s4 walk styles, s4 UI and s4 emotions and it might make an impressive sims 5.
Also if they made the graphics less like 2 & 3 by improving them a little.
Altho i still prefer s4 gameplay it'd be an intresting idea to try & play.

If Sims 5 has Sims 4 walk styles that on its own will be a reason for me to be not interested anymore. Same goes for the emotions. The emotions are just there for some gameplay but nothing else. Nothing deeper. And the UI isn't improvement at all.

CAS is nice (though still way too limited) and building mode is a dream that becomes a nightmare once you discover there's no CASt.

You can set the walk styles as the default everyone walks the same one ofc.
The emotions are good tho. I love the UI it's a real improvement. The emotions add nice gameplay.

I think emotions are the only 'gameplay', since everything revolves around them.

"emmaning;13817839" wrote:

"JoAnne65;13817824" wrote:

"emmaning;13817809" wrote:

"nanashi-sims;13817744" wrote:
If TS4 had the TS2 development team, it would be a near perfect game. The issues with TS4 is blurred vision, poor management decisions, and lack of talent. Nowadays everyone and their cousin can be a "programmer", a "digital artist", or a "game developer"--talent is not a requirement and neither is passion.

When you combine all of these factors, the result is a shiny game which lacks personality.

TS2 had a clear vision, able direction, and a highly skilled and passionate dev team. If these devs had just rewritten TS2 for TS4 and threw in TS3 elements like open world, CASt, and the ability to have as much content as you wanted without crashing the game. We wouldn't *need* a TS5.

Add tht to s4 cas, s4 build mode, s4 walk styles, s4 UI and s4 emotions and it might make an impressive sims 5.
Also if they made the graphics less like 2 & 3 by improving them a little.
Altho i still prefer s4 gameplay it'd be an intresting idea to try & play.

If Sims 5 has Sims 4 walk styles that on its own will be a reason for me to be not interested anymore. Same goes for the emotions. The emotions are just there for some gameplay but nothing else. Nothing deeper. And the UI isn't improvement at all.

CAS is nice (though still way too limited) and building mode is a dream that becomes a nightmare once you discover there's no CASt.

You can set the walk styles as the default everyone walks the same one ofc.
The emotions are good tho. I love the UI it's a real improvement. The emotions add nice gameplay.

No, there's no escape, because my sims will always end up in some mood that has a walk attached to it. Or they have to go to the loo. And my townies all walk like that as well.
Sims 3 I play like I drive my car: without thinking. In Sims 4 everything's all over the place. And it's like Astro says, the emotions are the only gameplay. Which takes away their personality. Emotions in this game should be there to build story's, not to paint a certain painting or have an angry poop.

"emmaning;13817809" wrote:

"nanashi-sims;13817744" wrote:
If TS4 had the TS2 development team, it would be a near perfect game. The issues with TS4 is blurred vision, poor management decisions, and lack of talent. Nowadays everyone and their cousin can be a "programmer", a "digital artist", or a "game developer"--talent is not a requirement and neither is passion.

When you combine all of these factors, the result is a shiny game which lacks personality.

TS2 had a clear vision, able direction, and a highly skilled and passionate dev team. If these devs had just rewritten TS2 for TS4 and threw in TS3 elements like open world, CASt, and the ability to have as much content as you wanted without crashing the game. We wouldn't *need* a TS5.

Add tht to s4 cas, s4 build mode, s4 walk styles, s4 UI and s4 emotions and it might make an impressive sims 5.
Also if they made the graphics less like 2 & 3 by improving them a little.
Altho i still prefer s4 gameplay it'd be an intresting idea to try & play.

Interesting opinion you have there @emmaning. What do you like about TS4 emotions? I don't use the walk styles (I think they are silly), but I agree, the CAS is pretty decent. I don't like the way fences are handled in TS4 build mode and I don't like that you can't make half floors upwards, but if those things were fixed then I would definitely agree with the build mode. However the UI and emotions are what is probably my biggest pet peeve with the latest iteration. What is it you like about the UI and the emotions system? I'd really like to know your thoughts :smile:

"nanashi-sims;13817952" wrote:

"emmaning;13817809" wrote:

"nanashi-sims;13817744" wrote:
If TS4 had the TS2 development team, it would be a near perfect game. The issues with TS4 is blurred vision, poor management decisions, and lack of talent. Nowadays everyone and their cousin can be a "programmer", a "digital artist", or a "game developer"--talent is not a requirement and neither is passion.

When you combine all of these factors, the result is a shiny game which lacks personality.

TS2 had a clear vision, able direction, and a highly skilled and passionate dev team. If these devs had just rewritten TS2 for TS4 and threw in TS3 elements like open world, CASt, and the ability to have as much content as you wanted without crashing the game. We wouldn't *need* a TS5.

Add tht to s4 cas, s4 build mode, s4 walk styles, s4 UI and s4 emotions and it might make an impressive sims 5.
Also if they made the graphics less like 2 & 3 by improving them a little.
Altho i still prefer s4 gameplay it'd be an intresting idea to try & play.

Interesting opinion you have there @emmaning. What do you like about TS4 emotions? I don't use the walk styles (I think they are silly), but I agree, the CAS is pretty decent. I don't like the way fences are handled in TS4 build mode and I don't like that you can't make half floors upwards, but if those things were fixed then I would definitely agree with the build mode. However the UI and emotions are what is probably my biggest pet peeve with the latest iteration. What is it you like about the UI and the emotions system? I'd really like to know your thoughts :smile:

I like the walk styles because they add a little touch of personality to each sim.
I like the UI because the way it's organised looks so nice and it's always quick to find everything- I don't need to use my brain, I can usually figure out how to use harder UIs but it's nice to just be able to play like I'm brainless. This doesn't mean I like easy games, i hate the easy games personally.
The emotion system to me makes them feel alive and more fluid. They also seem rlly expressive.
:)