Week 3 / Winter Roll-stice is grating me / a small rant
So far since early access, the challenges have been a perfect balance. Most i can do in a few attempts and a select few take maybe 10-20 minutes of trying. Which is the perfect balance. But this new update is just frustrating more than it is fun. Firstly, the market mile community park / challenges... I can't even get to the line challenge thats positioned below the park itself. I want to play a skate game, not some elaborate parkour map which leads to me stuck in the water 10 times. So I tried the other challenge at market mile... and it just makes no sense? You can't visulise the route because the arrows and ramps are all over the place. I've got a degree in design, so UI and visual guidance is something I'm very good at understanding. But I'm having a hard time with it, so i'd hate to know how some of the other players are experiencing it. So then I tried the regular season trix challenges. and they seem to have turned up the difficulty 10-fold. It's way above the balance of challenging but fun. It's just frustrating and unenjoyable. Some of them are slightly easier, but the game still has this bug of registering tricks. I landed the "flip trick to grind to flip trick" probably 8 times but the game only registered 4. Meaning i failed the challenge... However, I wouldn't have failed if it didn't have a short time limit of 3 minutes. I wouldn't call myself insanely skilled (i have no desire doing across the map lines etc) but I would say i'm average/above. So challenges shouldn't feel like this. Like i said in the beginning, it should be a balance between some easy, some taking a few attempts and maybe the odd one taking 10-20 minutes. What makes this even worse, is the rewards from challenges are minimal, and have been nerfed. If you're going to reduce rewards, the difficulity should be reduced too. Not increased. Otherwise there is no sense of reward / progress. An hour of challenge gameplay should produce decent unlocks, not pocket change in currency. And as a solo player... I have absolutely no desire to find a party for the "in a party" and own the lot challenges. It wouldn't be so bad if you could matchmake and have the game find a party / session for you. But i'm losing out on seasonal rewards because my play-style is being punished. I understand the devs probably get a list of what to do from the publishers, but boy the publishers really are good at pushing players away from potentially brilliant games. TLDR Design parks / challenges better. The standard has dropped big-time. No time limits. PLEASE Think about difficulty. The game needs to be challenging but fun. Not frustrating with no fun. No "in a party" or "own the lot" style gamemodes PLEASE.General complaints/requests
This game has been a severe disappointment. From the movement to landing tricks. Trying to maintain speed is nearly impossible, landing tricks from height, even initiating hops or grinds is a task and don’t even get me started on the limited landing thresholds overall. It seems like the transition mechanics have a lot to do with the problem as well, such as pumping. That’s really stupid, not one Skate game I’ve ever played has needed a “vert pump assist”, and why in the hell would you diminish speed or trick ability if you don’t “time it right”? Was the mechanic designed by a 3 year old? Have you people never actually played the games? I should not have to overhaul the settings, I should not have to go in and tweak settings in order to get into maybe 10 minutes of half-assed horizontal/vertical transition dynamic controls before I get frustrated and close the game, and I absolutely should not need an assist to be able to jump a half pipe or carve a bowl or 360 tunnels or anything else. TAKE PUMPING OUT OF THE GAME and I guarantee you we will have a much better playing experience.. It’s nearly unplayable, you’re lucky if you can string a line together before that ridiculous vert pump mechanic obliterates your speed. If it’s absolutely necessary, then make it automated, otherwise take it the hell out, it’s a nuisance trying to prepare a flip or grab while having to use both sticks at the same time. One stick for rotation and one stick for flicks is all you need, it shouldn’t take 3 different steps in order to make speed, do a trick, and land with enough speed to keep your line. This game needs to seriously be reworked. You guys nuked it. You literally could’ve transferred the movement/trick controls from skate 3 and it would’ve been 10x more enjoyable and entertaining. 3 months of trying to get into this game and I’m losing hope, fast. I’m not sure what the thought process was, or if you people even played it before you decided to release it to the public, but it sucks. It just sucks. No, I do not want to fly from skyscrapers 84 times before landing a trick once, no I should not need to invoke rocket science in order to roll up a ramp with enough speed to do something cool either. Give us bigger skate parks, give us better mechanics, give us a better game. Because this.. this is trash. It’s a deplorable disgrace and should be cast into the lake of fire. Fix it. Sincerely, a diehard skate fan.The new community hyper bugged parks
its absolutely ridiculous how these new skate park tracks on community places are super bugged, you cant complete a single 3 flips and stunts in a row without the game trowing your character 15 meters away as a bomb exploded in his side, it is pissing me off, guys please pay attention to it fast, the game is very bad rn in the new parks and tracks, only the old ones work good, the new ones are very buggy and unplayabe.Please..! More Build Pieces..!?!
Please add more than just 5 build pieces to work with. Nothing even works when I try building an idea because you run out of pieces to use before you can finish it, or I can even build an idea for something simple because it takes more than 5 pieces.. almost anything worth building would be... please.. Love everything els in/about the game though. \(-.-)/ Please...
My top frustrations/complaints/suggestions for skate.
idk if any dev is actually going to bother reading all this, but if so then thanks and sorry for it being so much. I tried to order each list from most to least important for each category (in my opinion, of course) (EDIT: Added categories and moved everything I listed later in the comments up to Dec. 11th into the OP instead) I'm going to first start with my #1 complaint that I didn't know which category to put it under, so instead I'll just leave it under no category at the top: The game is online-only and there's no way to play offline or preferably host a P2P/LAN server. I don't like spending money on online-only games knowing that inevitably one day they'll be shut down. Please plan for the future and make sure all the work you guys have put into this game will be preserved. Visuals: Because the game uses Lumen lighting, a lot of the dynamic lighting is very splotchy and looks poor. Even more annoying is the ghosting around any moving object/character when Lumen lighting is behind said object/character. A great example of this is if you go to the stage in Hedgemont where all the TV screens are and run around against those screens, you'll immediately see major ghosting all around your character. It'd be a nice detail if the bottom of our skateboards got scratched up when used enough, like in other games such as Session. I think even a few of the THPS' had this. Also include an option to reset the board damage, or disable the feature entirely since I'm sure some people out there will complain otherwise. I'd like to see more of the lighter bail animations where you don't completely fall to the ground but instead stumble off your board and barely regain composure. There were a lot of really good ones in skate 3, while so far I think there's only two or maybe three in the new game? Audio/Music Player: Disabling the "Vee's comments" audio setting doesn't affect her repetitive dialogue at the start/end of every challenge. Please Vee, I know what a "pig challenge" is already! The only current workaround is to turn VO volume all the way to zero, but then I can't hear my own character, nor Shingo, Slappy, and Lizzy, who I like the voices of. Please let us disable how the music player automatically starts playing a song every time you begin a challenge. I like the in-world music, I don't want to get blasted by a song for 45 seconds until the challenge ends and it cuts off. Currently I have to open up the music player and pause it every time I start a challenge, which sucks. I'd like a way to block/dislike songs so they stop playing in the open world and during challenges. Alternatively only play songs that I've favorited. There are certain songs I hate hearing so much, please! Could we get a "skip" button on the music player to skip forward to the next song? Settings: There's no gameplay assist setting to disable/tone down the vert magnitization. I'll often be trying to grind a rail or just ollie over something but instead magnetize to some far away ramp and my whole character goes sideways. Please add DLAA. This would also help with the Lumen ghosting issue I mentioned under Visuals. Please add a graphic setting to disable the chromatic aberration effect. The "low camera" setting isn't quite accurate to the original skate's low camera view. I want it to be a bit lower and closer to the board. Please either replicate that camera view from the original, or just let me manually adjust the camera position and angle in settings? UI: The map could really use some icon filters so we can hide/view specific mission types, or hide them all so we can just see fast travel locations and other players. Please let me hide the "2/4 players in party" HUD element that's always on the right side of my screen. It's very unnecessary imo, why would I need to constantly see that? It's one of the only HUD elements I currently can't remove, and I want as little HUD as possible in skate. When a party member is in the pause menu or using the replay feature their little triangle icon above them should change to either a paused icon or camcorder to represent either of those, that way you know they're busy and don't try to start a challenge while they're in there (which annoyingly just starts it by yourself). I can understand why the social menu was moved to its own tab with the S2 update, but it feels weird that its the only tab that uses RT/LT to navigate. I think the social menu being under the main home menu tab previously was perfectly fine, and easier to access. Object Dropper: The object dropper only allowing a measly FIVE objects is so limiting, you can't do much with that. Please increase it quite a bit so we can create cool stuff! Please let us save the objects we've placed so they load back into the map the next time we launch the game. This would be so cool with a drastically increased limit as well. I'd love to build cool skate spots and shortcuts all over the whole map. Before Season 2 we could remove objects holding others up and it'd let them float. This was necessary for some builds because of the limit of only 5 objects. After the S2 update if you delete the object that's holding something up, the entire thing just disappears instantly with no way to revert. Please either let objects float once more, or, better yet, just increase the object dropper limit! Then I can afford to leave objects holding others up for "structural support." Controls/Tricks: Bailing is so finicky in this game, it feels like the detection for it is a bit broken. I very often get thrown off a grind for seemingly no reason. Bring back grind grabs (grabbing the board while in a grind). Similarly, bring back the ability to grab the board while powersliding! Currently 360 hardflips and inward flips are the only ones we can't hold. Are those planned to be added in the future? Does the setting to enable sideways ollies not currently work? My friend and I can't figure out how you're supposed to do them once you've enabled it. I expected them to work the same way directional pops do in Session (example of that here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-e1e0bdugg). Map/World: Add some interiors! The lack of any indoor locations (except the S2 tunnel) is disappointing. For example, I'd absolutely love if there was an indoor mall to skate around. I hope suburban areas are planned for a future map expansion. Those have always been my favorite areas in the series, the first game especially had a phenomenal suburban area with plenty of nice spots to find all around the neighborhoods and alleyways. Missions: When doing a line challenge if you complete an attempt but only finish half of the goals it'll cross them out even though you need to do the whole thing in one attempt. After it crosses a goal out you can no longer tell your current progress on that goal in your next attempt. Already completed goals should still count toward daily/weekly/seasonal tasks so we can replay completed missions instead of having to rely entirely on the daily rotations that get old very fast. There are so many missions that should be getting reused for the daily challenge rotations to add more variety. Currently there's only two days' worth of daily challenges that switch in and out. Add all those other missions that were one-and-done to it, I'd love to have a reason to replay them and earn XP/Rip Chips/Tix! I'd like to see more missions that actually require using the Object Dropper. Currently there's very, very few (less than 5 maybe?) that do, and they're very basic like, "place one ramp in this exact spot and you're done." I want some open-ended missions that are almost like puzzles, "find the right pieces to make it across this gap," that kind of thing. I really like the new Own the Lot challenges, I love how many different objectives you've made for each area and that they're randomly chosen for replayability (not that there's a reason to replay them once you earn the Tix...), but the balance for solo or two players needs looked at. It is extremely difficult to reach the highest reward with two players, and practically impossible if you're solo. I don't think you should be forcing people to play in full parties just to be able to complete them. Please either have it dynamically adjust the amount of time given based on number of players, or just bump up the time gained when completing goals a bit? Progression: The grind for Rip Chips and Tix is miserable ever since they were nerfed in Season 1. It's so slow! It took me just under 85 hours to reach level 10 across the current three districts, and I still need a ridiculous amount of Rip Chips to buy all the boxes. Please, fans are more likely to return to the game and buy the battle passes when they're easier to finish, not harder and grindier! I wish battle passes were permanent. Please look at games like Helldivers 2 for how much better a consumer-friendly permanent battle pass system can be. It leads to more sales in the long term than FOMO does! Multiplayer/Social: Get rid of the mission countdown timer entirely as it currently functions in co-op. As the host I would much rather choose a mission, then it shows up for other party members and requires them to hold a button to accept/vote to start it. That way it only starts when everyone is ready, rather than the current 10 second timer before yanking everyone away from what they were doing. There's no text chat! This is so disappointing for an MMO-like game with a big focus on the social aspect. Text chat would let me meet up with randoms, skate some lines, chat with them, etc. without needing to form a party and use voice chat. Emotes: It is baffling to me that emotes can't be heard by others. You just silently, awkwardly dance on everyone else's end. Please add it so everyone can hear each others' emotes, or at the very least other party members! Add a customizable emote wheel, rather than the current system of only having four emote slots that use LB + one of the four directions on the D-Pad. It's very limited and there's a TON of emotes I want to be able to use more often! Please gimme more than 4 emote slots! Quite a few emotes can't be done while you're on your board. I really love the ones that let you do that, can we get that for all of them? For example, the Running Man and Moonwalk emotes would be hilarious while on your board. Currently when doing emotes it'll mute the music whether it be from your music player or the open world, I'd rather it not do that, at least the open world music, and play them both at the same time. Cosmetics/Customization/Store: Clothes are way, way too baggy and massive, especially shirts. It makes my character look like they gained 100 pounds! I really hope you'll either revert the new Season 2 face complexions, or let us adjust them back to how they used to look. My character looks much worse now, the shading around the eyes and nose is so much darker than before! We should be able to freely place stickers on our board, including resizing them, rather than the current 3-sticker system that's very limited. Let us buy things from store bundles individually! The incentive to buying a bundle instead should be that the combined price is discounted while individual items aren't, just like how Fortnite or other successful live service games do it. I guarantee there's a lot of people out there who have zero interest in spending $20+ on a bundle but would drop a few bucks here and there for one or two items out of the bundles. This is really low on the scale of importance (hence me putting it near the bottom), but I'm not a fan of how every costume so far either looks like it was made of paper mache or cardboard. I was really hopeful that Isaac Clarke would return to this game, he was my favorite character to use in skate 3! I kept asking if he'd return on skate's social media leading up to release lol. I was very disappointed that what we instead got was an unappealing cardboard box costume version of him. I would gladly have given you guys some money if you had just ported over the skate 3 model (aka the OG Dead Space model). Could we get the original green "Yeah Right!" deck? I saw the new 20th anniversary version was in the store a few weeks back, but the OG is a classic.
Skating in a party….
I get that the game is supposed to be social thats why its always online but forcing us to play with other players by tying tasks to it (complete challenge goals in a party etc…) is really annoying! OTL I understand cause thats what those were specifically made for but outside of that if Im able to do stuff alone I should just be able to!! I don’t always want to play with my friends, sometimes I just cant cause we live in different timezones etc… This wasn't supposed to be a complaint just wishful thinking. Please stop tying task outside of OTL task to skating in a party!
