Re: Why wasn't this mentioned EA?
People who say I don’t mind paying are foolish. Agreed. I am sick of microtransactions. I am sick of Origin client as well. last game I buy from EA.
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Likewise, Spunkie_Monkey. EA is off my purchase list.
But it's not EA, but their leagues of braindead apologists, that really disgust me.
Let me clarify ny point. The $80 for the game should I agree give you everything that comes with the game at release for free. Why should you be paying $80 dollars if you have to make further microtransactions. It should be either one or the other as with mobile games. It is very shify to charge someone $80 and then once they have committed effectively tell them that they cant play all the game unless they part with more cash. That is like charging for the game twice and that I think its what we are all (except perhaps Peligrad) angry about. Its $80 already !!!! Thats a fortune.
However, I doubt EA and other companies will make future DLC without some future revenue stream to fund it. Further to that they probably need to fund keeping the online server service going as that aint gonna pay for itself. In order to provide DLC they can make money either by charging for it up front before you buy a particular DLC pack, or by charging for a season pass, or implementing micro transactions. The similar for funding the servers, its either a season pass or microtransactions. EA have chosen not to charge for future DLC or a season pass, this is not them being kind to us as instead they have chosen to implement microtransactions (similarly this is not them being mean to us). They have simply chosen a revenue model for the future to fund DLC and servers. The question is whether their implimentation of this microtransaction model is fair.
I personally prefer microtransactions instead of season passes as it allows me to give a little money at a time when I fancy it rather than paying a bulk up front for the season pass only to then perhaps find I dont have the time to play and thus use what I have already paid for.
As I said the question is whether their implimentation of this microtransaction model is fair. I think you must make stuff you get from microtrasactions also obtainable through game play else it is 100% play to win. However as a lot of people angrly point out it is still in a large part play to win and if you make it 1000 hour of play before you get something you want or need then it forces you to buy stuff making it only a facade that not really 100% play to win.
What would you prefer for funding future DLC and maintaining servers:
A) Seanon pass
B) Upfront DLC fees
C) Microtransactions
I personally prefer C (as long as itt s not for loot crates as that is just gambling and so should be illegal particularly if kids are playing). My question is how should the micotransaction system be balanced fairly and how can we get EA to do that for us? Or should we go for A and B above?
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@chinnyreckon very well said. When all DLC was announced to be free I was excited for it and actually supported the idea of micro-transactions as a trade off. But at the time I was under the impression that as you said it would be fair. In it's current state it needs to be adjusted drastically. Going off information from Reddit roughly $2,000 or 4,000 hours to unlock everything is extremely unfair and more money they would make from a season pass for $60. Those stats are no mistake either and were clearly put there to see how much they could get away with. A fair price range would probably be say $120- $300 to unlock everything quickly and maybe a few hundred hours to unlock everything without paying in my opinion.
The system to me feels cheap because it is tied too much to progression almost everything you unlock is only through crates. They should have implemented a system more closely reassembly that of Battlefield 4 with that crate system. Mostly had cosmetics and some special weapons parts that didn't really give players a clear advantage over others but those weapon parts were cool and interesting to have and everyone wanted them. All the other weapons and parts had to be unlocked through game play alone. They could have also implemented just having simply cosmetics that people would go crazy for like clone trooper skins and such. Overwatch made over a Billion dollars from crates that only had cosmetics in it. But with this they simply don't have enough content in the game to do this which they do need more of like weapons, parts and skins for example.
Making crates contain only cosmetics would be perfect. That would remove pay to win completely, And as you say EA would earn more than enough cash. A recent post on Star Wars HQ says EA are looking towards cosmetic crates and making progression less random. Whilst this seems to imply the removal of items needed for progression and performance from crates this is not explicitly stated by EA, just that they are looking to imporve the progression system. So how they will do this is still unclear. They did say that nothing is to late regarding changes to these systems. So lets put the preasure on!!!! See link below:
In addition, making crates cosmetic only means that the hours required for progression can be reduced with no effect on crate cost. Thus making the game less grind and more fun. Please EA cosmetic crates only, play progression only. You can still earn a fortune this way!!!
was able to cancel my pre order. Its a good day. come on steam sale.
I have bitten the bullet and have just preloaded the game. I just hope that EA do the right thing by us all.
@chinnyreckon wrote:I have bitten the bullet and have just preloaded the game. I just hope that EA do the right thing by us all.
I'd like to buy the game I had a lot of fun during the beta. Although the game is still not perfect disregarding crate progression. I want to focus more on the real issues on the game and give ideas rather then the distracting progression system. I cannot let myself support such greedy design with the game in it's current state. I hope they fix these issues (real fixes!) soon so we can all move past it and just enjoy a good game. Until then I will not be giving them my support with my money. It is the only way to stop this madness.
