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Re: [BY DESIGN] Family Tree: Relationships above grandparents are not recognized

Her family tree shows a relationship between each family member (She only interacted with two ancestors and a brother before I reported the bug), so I went into CAS to look at family relationships. I didn’t find a section to view those. However, while in CAS, I linked and then unlinked the sim’s mermaid form (I hadn’t done that in my past attempts to figure out what was wrong) and re-edited her mermaid form. Then, I saved the household to my library and restarted the game. I invited everyone over to view the socials, and she no longer has a romance option with her close family members. However, there is still a romance option with direct ancestors on her family tree.
Side note: this also made her tail appear for the first time in her life. Yay! 🧜‍♀️ 👽 

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  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    Hero+
    6 years ago
    @Rae_Regenbogen How far away ancestors ? The game only retains relationships up to level 4 or 5 (not sure)

    When you hover over her with the other Sim in the relationship bar, what info can you see there ?
  • It says “ancestor.” The Sim on the tree below her says great-grandmother.

  • Still ew. 😂

    Thanks for your help. Since there isn’t a romance option with her close family members anymore, I’ll go ahead and mark this as accepted even though it’s still gross. Lol

  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    Hero+
    6 years ago
    @Rae_Regenbogen I'll go ahead and merge your post.

    Guess that's not usually something that will happen as your ancestors are usually dead by the time the Sim grows up and is only really an issue for immortal Sims.

    Also, in RL there's countries where you can marry your cousin .. that's closer.
  • 😂

    Lol. So thankful that I didn’t have to marry any of my cousins.

    Thanks again for the help. 

  • rostsit's avatar
    rostsit
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago

    So incest is "by design", ok, I guess.

    But may I remind you that my original question is about family trees. The bug reported in this thread is that ALL but last generation recognize the WHOLE family tree, while the last generation recognizes only a part of it. How come some sims have family trees with great grandparents and even ABOVE, while others don't??? There is something wrong with it.

    Please, make a separate thread, call it "incest with great grandparents" or something and mark it "By design". This thread is about FAMILY TREES first and foremost.

  • rostsit's avatar
    rostsit
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago

    @crinrict It's totally not the same. I don't have blank photos on the family tree, can't you see? And it's not like the tree is completely corrupted, it WORKS, just not for every generation, only the 6th generation has its tree cut.

    Completely different bug.

  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    Hero+
    6 years ago
    @rostsit The romance interactions are not related to that you can't see your prior ancestors. It's because it doesn't go back that far (which is what Nick posts about).

    Will leave this to a CM to handle further cause I don't have any insight in the design notes I can only go by what QA has said.
  • rostsit's avatar
    rostsit
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago

    @crinrict You seem to ignore what I am saying. The romance interactions is again - another bug. Or not a bug - it's by design, as Nick said, I don't really care. 

    This thread should be about family tree being cut for 6th generation, not about incest (which is related, but still not the first thing I reported here), and NOT about blank portraits on the family trees (which is unrelated at all).

  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    Hero+
    6 years ago
    @rostsit As said, a CM/QA will assist you further.

    With Xmas break this might be in January though.
  • epdaly11's avatar
    epdaly11
    New Scout
    6 years ago

    Here's one to stump you. I'm on my 5th gen, they are all toddlers, all but 1 of them shows the whole 5 gens of the family tree. The other sims tree shows up to her grandparents but not further up. Why does great great gran show up for everyone else but her?🤔💚🍀

  • rostsit's avatar
    rostsit
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago

    After all the latest patches (but I am not sure which one, exactly), family tree is now expanded.

    As previously, the first sim on the tree can see them all.

    But the last sims are now able to see up to grand-grand parents (called ancestors in the game). They can't see anything above though.

    And romantic interactions with grand-grand parents are still possible.

    P.S. Please, whoever did this, remove this "be design" label, this thread is NOT about incest, for gods sake, I've repeated this many times already. It is about family tree and it IS being worked on and now even fixed partially.

  • EA_Lanna's avatar
    EA_Lanna
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    5 years ago

    Hi @rostsit,

    Ok so there's a few things in there: 

    1. Splitting this thread into two
    2. Romantic interactions
    3. Next steps

    Splitting the thread into Two


    @rostsit wrote:

    ...P.S. Please, whoever did this, remove this "be design" label, this thread is NOT about incest, for gods sake, I've repeated this many times already. It is about family tree and it IS being worked on and now even fixed partially.


    Unfortunately, we aren't able to help you out with that request. This thread reports two things (perhaps inadvertently); the romance interaction and the display for the 6th gen family tree. Romantic interactions were repeatedly bumped in the same comments as the family tree display prior to Nicks post (I'll Include some examples of romantic interaction comments in the spoiler tag below) which make it difficult to split the comments into thread A and B.

    Spoiler

    @rostsit wrote:

    What happens when the bug occurs? ...Moreover, 6th generation sims also don't recognize any relatives above grandparents, thus having all romantic options available for grand-grandparents and above.
    What do you expect to see? ...The romantic relationships between close relatives should not normally be allowed.
    ...And they can flirt and everything with their grand-grandparents and above. 



    @rostsit wrote:
    The CAS didn't changed the relationships among my sims, moreover, I had noticed the issue even before I used CAS for the first time after 6th generation sims were born and became toddlers.
    And its not only visual. It is affecting gameplay, as romantic options are working where they shouldn't.

    @rostsit wrote:

    1t, 2d, and 3d generations have romantic interactions with 6th. 


    What's more, how these have been tethered together for me reads that the main issue is the romantic interactions (as a result of the 6th gen family tree issues). Consequently, it seems the bug report thread title reflects what was seen to be the core issue being flagged; the romantic interaction which makes sense as SimGuru Nicks communication in here offers insight on that subject.


    I understand following his post you made efforts to clarify the intention of creating this bug report; to clear up and redirect the focus of the thread discussion. It's unfortunate that came through after Nicks reviewed and updated the thread as at that point the focus was locked in. Bug reports are designed for flagging and focusing on one issue at a time you see. You would need to open a separate bug report for the family tree issue exclusively, minus any mention of the romantic interactions, to keep them separated.  

    Romantic Interactions


    @rostsit wrote:

    And romantic interactions with grand-grand parents are still possible.


    Yes, this is to be expected. Nick's comment offers insights as to the whys:


    @SimGuruNick wrote:

    It's unfortunately by design that great grandchildren can have romantic interactions with their great grandparent, our incest checks just don't go back that far. I'd call this more of a feature request, not a bug, pretty sure it's always been this way. 


    I'll lock this bug report on romantic interaction between 6th gen and 1st gens here as there's nothing further to add on the romantic interactions portion. 

    Next steps:

    In the meantime, it would be best to open a dedicated bug report solely for the family gen display issue you're encountering. It will also mean the information you share in the bug report will show how it currently is following the patches and fixes. Please feel free to open a new report if there isn't an existing thread already open.

    - EA_Lanna

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