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Re: Suggestion: Optional auto-fire

@CloudMcRipSo every weapon would be an automatic?

Yeah...... NO!

Whilst I have every sympathy with people who may find it difficult to repeatedly press triggers, this option would be abused by those that don't need it.

I should point out that I am somewhat advanced in age and having used power tools most of my career, my fingers are getting a tad stiff (fnarr, fnarr) and achy so arguably, I would benefit but no, bad idea. 

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  • CloudMcRip's avatar
    CloudMcRip
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @Trokey66 There is no abusing when everyone can use it. It is like "Aim-assist".
    I suggest this just because soon or later it will be there the question is if it is on this title or on a later installment.
    I encountered this function on the Back 4 Blood beta and I say you what, it doesn't hurt anyone as long everyone can use it meanwhile I could also just use the Spliftfish FX Piranha which is an offical Sony licensed Mouse controller with a built in Trigger-Macro feature which is 100% legal and make every shotgun/rifle to an auto-shotgun/auto-rifle.

    I think you have understand my point, I suggest to keep things for everyone fair instead keeping it "fairness" for a small amount of players who use an "official" licensed product to gain advantage.
  • Trokey66's avatar
    Trokey66
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    @CloudMcRipSo because everyone can use cheats if they want, they must be fine?

    Just because everyone has the option to use a 'thing', that doesn't necessarily justify its exsistance.

    And yes, this function would essentially make every weapon an automatic even if the fire rate is limited, it is still an automatic, in fact it is the very definition of an automatic - pull and hold trigger, gun fires till empty or jams!

    People cheat by using macros to auto fire semi automatics and now you want to make them legit?

    No, it will be abused. 

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    CloudMcRip
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    @Trokey66 wrote:

    @CloudMcRipSo because everyone can use cheats if they want, they must be fine?

    Just because everyone has the option to use a 'thing', that doesn't necessarily justify its exsistance.

    And yes, this function would essentially make every weapon an automatic even if the fire rate is limited, it is still an automatic, in fact it is the very definition of an automatic - pull and hold trigger, gun fires till empty or jams!

    People cheat by using macros to auto fire semi automatics and now you want to make them legit?

    No, it will be abused. 


    Again there is no abusing. When the function is available to everyone this can't be abused. It doesn't change the speed of the weapon because there is still the animation and the recoil effect. It just change your own input from pressing a button to hold a button. It would be still the same speed as would you press as fast as you can the button.

    In other words how can it be "abused" ?
    Sorry I don't see a valid point where it can be abused.

    "And yes, this function would essentially make every weapon an automatic even if the fire rate is limited, it is still an automatic, in fact it is the very definition of an automatic - pull and hold trigger, gun fires till empty or jams!"

    No and Yes. The "soldier/specialist" does the "half-automatic" part while you the player inputs it "automatic" by just "holding" the button. So technically it is still a half automatic rifle or pistol that is shooting.

    These "macros" are already at least for that one controller "legit" because this controller meets the standard and recieve it parts from Sony Playstation directly and got certified. That's one (next to comfortable, accessability) of the reasons why a few titles already trending to give games a "hold" instead of "smash" a button option. 

    Quote: "People cheat by using macros to auto fire semi automatics and now you want to make them legit?"

    Answer: I don't want that people cheat by using macros, but the one official licensed controller (Piranha FX) that didn't got banned from EA games for over 6 years since it's existence does tell/show me that *these macros* (for this one controller) aren't that bad to needed banned. They are addressed but since it is an officially licensed product it is legit otherwise it wouldn't be "licensed".

    Back to topic:
    I want the optional "auto-shooting" (short: holding RT/R2/Left Mouse to shoot a semi weapon automatic ) for:

    1. comfortable useage
      1. this will cause a longer playtime even if it's a small percentage
    2. long durability of controller (holding a button would reduce the wear and tears about over 50% so if a "controller" holds 1 year it would hold for 2 years by a daily usage.
      1. the long durability would also come good for our environment
    3. it gives a better accessability to disabled players or older people by an easier access to the shooting genre
      1. No abusing unfair "semi fire" macros anymore, just ingame options > game > auto shooting ON and everyone can do it

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