Re: SNIPERS arent properly utilized and should be limited in BF 2042, agree?

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@DDouble_Tap02 wrote:

To be honest, snipers arent a primary part of real world battlefields, this is based on research of the topic.  The training is to extensive, its to expensive, and its not an all around weapon,  because war is fluid. But BF4 and COD MW were over run with them.  I never played COD until Dice experimented with Ww1 and Ww2.  I have to admit COD MW is a good game, love the graphics,  but their sniper problem is massive and the reason why I don't love the game and play it for limited stretches.  They have this option to allow players to carry 2 primary weapons and a sniper rifle is the main one they would choose. You cant take 2 steps after spawning without getting shot from across the map, and its massively frustrating.  The game just doesnt flow properly which makes you bore easily.

Too make this the best authenic game ever, limit the number of snipers.  1 per squad at minimum or a total limit overall. Also if you buy a server, create the ability to exclude snipers.  They are not prevelant on a real battlefield, why frustrate your grinders by someone capable of making a cheap shot. COD ttk is perfect on most part outside the sniper issue and map size.  The frustrating part about BF4 was you had to shot someone a thousand times to kill them. Throw in a sniper rifle then you never stood a chance.

So, for the sake of your franchise and truly dominate the market.  No 2 primary weapons like sniper and assault rifle carried at the same time, and can you please do something about those nonskilled snipers that can easily ruin the game?  You would be surprised how it flows without them.

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No worries @DDouble_Tap02 ,

BF2042 will only allow soldiers to be equipped with one primary weapon and one secondary sidearm weapon.

I have no problem with the Marksmen class, they are frustrating but having  used it...its a very fun weapon and a fair weapon, commonly carried In real battles,  I have respect for those players and you dont contantly hear complaints from people killed by one.   You constanly hear chatter about the dammned snipers.  I recently read they were banned in COD leauge play which says a lot.  Even in the movies there  are  0 or just 1 snipers on scene and they require spotters and other equipment.  In game, make them guage wind and bullet drop and if a non kill bullet hits them make them stun or stagger for a split second.  Sniper training is extensive, in game, a 7 year old shouldnt be able to pick 1 up and making head shots before the end of the round...snipping is way too easy.

A way arond the sniper problem is not inlude them with a load out.  Scatter a select number in crates around the battkefield find a crate snd chose your snioer rifle with a finite number of rounds.  After amo expires, operator drops it, it shows on the map in a crate for the next user to pick up, or the same guy can pick it up after a cool down period.  If they do this, I personally would not get pissed by being snipped.

Another solution, if you die say 3 times as a recon sniper, you can only carry a Marksmen rifle for the rest of the match.  Only higyhy skilled operators would take thst risk and thats how it should be.  I personally cant wait for this game to come out. I am fully prepared to give hours of my life for the pure enjoyment it will provide.  It will be my drug of choice....unless snipers ruin it with a bad fix....ugh.

Maybe Sniper ammo should be limited and only resuppliable at ammo stations

To be honest if you are losing a game where the team opposite has too many snipers then you really dont belong on Battlefield, snipers do not really hold much weight in an objective based game mode, and i for one have never lost a game and said at the end, Damn those snipers.

the only people that would say that, in my opinion, are the lone wolf K/D ho's that REALLY ruin the game.

AKA CoD players lol

I don't think K/D should track unless your team wins the match.

Except for assignments and weapon/attachments unlocks.

Only you and I really care about winning the match, everyone else cares about their KD ratio.  I introduced my nephew to BF4 and he died often.   He took up sniper because it was easy and liked it.   "I finally get some kills" he cared nothing about the objective.  As far as snipers ruined a match.   That's the only reason why I took the time to make this post.

Thats the purpose of war...make the other person die for their country...all Ks no Ds.

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@Surfjayce wrote:

To be honest if you are losing a game where the team opposite has too many snipers then you really dont belong on Battlefield, snipers do not really hold much weight in an objective based game mode, and i for one have never lost a game and said at the end, Damn those snipers.

the only people that would say that, in my opinion, are the lone wolf K/D ho's that REALLY ruin the game.

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Thats the purpse of war... all Ks no Ds. Without those no victory.  How you go about achieving that is always debateable, thats why the term rules of engagement is always aplicable. There have been many ocassions I have quit to watch a movie because of snipers.  They create what I call false starts, like ground hog day the movie.

@DDouble_Tap02Great info on sniping!

As for Battlefield, it will be fine. It's a video game, so clearly they have to do things for gameplay and not get too stuck on realism. Like I've said in other posts, I didn't find that snipers were that big of a problem in BF4. There's way too much chaos going on, the maps are well designed with plenty of cover for infantry, the vehicle count is far greater than even BF1 or BFV...all that makes it near impossible for a sniper to dominate. Most times I get sniped in BF4, the sniper usually already dealt with by the time I even get back to look for him.

I play Conquest almost exclusively though. I played Titan mode in BF2142 and Carrier Assualt in BF4 as well. So I can't speak to Rush or Breakthrough. Maybe snipers dominate those more controlled maps like they would COD.

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@psylentrage76 wrote:
@DDouble_Tap02No dude, nope. COD doesn't have the same weapons physics, so a sniper there, won't be on the same level here. Also there are MANY players who make it almost part of their mission to hunt campers and snipers. Bullet drop just need to be same through-out the weapons, as THAT is unbalaned sometimes i.e. BFV lmg almost doesn't have any, and the STG-44 with a long-range scope, became an automatic sniper anyways, with less drop than the ACTUAL sniper weapons, which didn't make any sense. Sniper isn't the problem, bad players is, and THAT'S just humanity. Can't ban humans from the game or limit them. Best thing to do, is to incentivise team play, and it sounds like they are. I'm an all-rounder by the way, PTO always

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I hope you are right, I  skipped BF1 and 5, this will be my epic return to franchise. 

I will wait to pass judgment, I can't wait to see what they have learned since I've been gone. 

I can't wait to see the sniper - sentry gun - health kit combo.

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@Noodlesocks wrote:

I can't wait to see the sniper - sentry gun - health kit combo.

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Just another type of player to hunt.

If this set up exists....

I cant wait to be a med pack sniper 

lol you should see the sniper glint thread, bf2 was the game to learn how to counter snipers. Most people are so used to sniper glint now, that they don't actually take the time to learn how to fight a sniper.