@TheCompton73 Possible, but due to the breakdown and fact that the no pats are not the US, then they could be using cheaper, easier to source (and probably older surplus) rounds.
Of course it is also possible that they could develop something far better that we have not even considered.
If the US is supplying them with 80 million dollar F35's and electric Abrams tanks I think it would be able to supply them with a tank round first entering service in 2020's. Most likely by 2042 there will be no supply of the older rounds left as they'll go out of production once the AMP rounds become standard issue.
As for other possibilites of future weapons, there certainly could be something out of the blue but the AMP round is an actual weapons development program that will be in service before the 2030's and will make the rounds they give us in game obsolete.
@TheCompton73 Being both ex military and the owner of an electric vehicle, they are going to have to do a hell of a lot development in the next twenty years for any type of electric tank to be practical on the battlefield. My car takes about two hours to charge fully from 20% on a fast charger for a range of 270 miles in perfect conditions. As soon as the weather gets cold or you put on the heater/AC, lights, wipers, radio, etc range starts to drop. The heavier the vehicle the worse it gets, we have vans that get 160 in perfect conditions and hills are a killer. The batteries in an MBT would not last long.
I am told that much faster chargers are on the way, but you don't find them out on the battlefield. so you would have to use generators (sort of defeats the object of electric vehicles) and they would provide a much lower voltage, meaning longer charging times). A hybrid transport could be good for special forces for stealth purposes, but the extra weight on an MBT could be detrimental.
@Rusty Rat The viability of the electric tanks is pretty tangential to the post topic but in a round about way you're making my point for me. If the US is supplying the no-pats with what would be the latest advancements in vehicles such as practical, battle ready electric M1's surely they'd be getting the AMP rounds as well. Not rounds that would have been out of production for over a decade by 2042.
@Flavin913 As they are fighting for both sides, then the US are only supplying one team, the Russians are supplying the other.
However they also have their own equipment, remember the ship from the prelaunch movie and the weapons they obviously had before being forced to choose a side. No pats have been split to fight on both sides in 2042 and some arguably would change as they see the benefit.
@TheCompton73 I was referring to your statement saying the US was supplying them with electric tanks.
As in my original reply, I agree they could be supplying them. They could also be supplying older stock and keeping the latest for their own troops. The military hate to dispose of anything that might be useful and you would be amazed how big the stockpiles can be. If they have not had a major conflict requiring them, there is a good chance they would still have rounds from a decade before in storage. I remember being given 7.62 mm rounds on the range because they were getting towards 30 years old and they wanted to use them up (Had rations the same sort of age as well).
If they hadn't come up with the no pat idea to explain why the same specialists were on both sides and kept with two clearly defined sides, then latest developments could be incorporated into the game. As the Russians would be supplying one side and the US the other, simple balance means that something equivalent has to be available for both teams.Unless the US were supplying the Russian forces as well (or the Russians have copied them), then the AMP rounds can't be in the game.
@Rusty Rat Once again you're reply is 99% off topic and based on hypothetical theories you have about whats going on in the fictional world of 2042. What I'm arguing/asking for is for this game to reflect the reality that AMP rounds will be standard issue.
As for your final point about why they shouldn't be included, are you forgetting that asymmetric capabilities already exist in the jets and transports? And with a quick search I found articles talking about Russia having advanced rounds in development as well with rounds that have air burst capabilities and guided munitions with extremely long range.
BF4 did a fantastic job of incorporating current and near future tech in fun and interesting ways for upgrading the vehicles but 2042 really fails in that department.
@fragnstein Just part of the mess this game is with the changes in direction. You are on the side of the US or Russians, but play as a no pat that can be from many different origins and are not part of either national army (essentially mercenaries).
