Re: Aim assist bug, to drive pc players away ?

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@InS_Hypno wrote:

No

The solution is just not to do crossplay because console players are gonna whine until they are on the same level as pc player and for that to happen the aim assist needs to be too strong

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If keyboard and mouse is so easy mode and so all powerful, why do half of PC players and 9/10 of console players use controller? If it's so all blasted powerful, everyone would be using it. That's why out of 64 players on a map, 55 of them will be Paik running around with a K30...easy mode.

This whole discussion clearly show how misserably Dice has failed to implement crossplay. Console players don't want to play against PC with M&K and PC players don't want to play against console players with aim-assist. Unfortunately Dice won't do anything about this.

Advice to buthurt Pc-players. Connect a controller and you will have aimbot. Simple solution. 

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@Echo6Echo wrote:

If keyboard and mouse is so easy mode and so all powerful, why do half of PC players and 9/10 of console players use controller? If it's so all blasted powerful, everyone would be using it. That's why out of 64 players on a map, 55 of them will be Paik running around with a K30...easy mode.

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Many of these people are actually using a M/K which is going through an emulated controller device which is programmable via software/scripts to eliminate recoil. The game sees a controller even though the player is mouse and keyboard. Anticheat doesn't detect this because it's done in the emulated controller hardware and can be programmed outside of the PC runtime (or even on another PC). I would link a video showing someone doing exactly this. But since it might be against ToS, you'll have to look for yourself. It's a hardware cheat.

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@DigitalHype wrote:

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@Echo6Echo wrote:

If keyboard and mouse is so easy mode and so all powerful, why do half of PC players and 9/10 of console players use controller? If it's so all blasted powerful, everyone would be using it. That's why out of 64 players on a map, 55 of them will be Paik running around with a K30...easy mode.

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Many of these people are actually using a M/K which is going through an emulated controller device which is programmable via software/scripts to eliminate recoil. The game sees a controller even though the player is mouse and keyboard. Anticheat doesn't detect this because it's done in the emulated controller hardware and can be programmed outside of the PC runtime (or even on another PC). I would link a video showing someone doing exactly this. But since it might be against ToS, you'll have to look for yourself. It's a hardware cheat.

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A key point here is that those external devices provide a workaround to get KBM+aim assist+30% v.recoil reduction for either PC or console players.

What has long bothered me is that back in the BF4 days one of the Dev's (jjju?) came on this forum and took a pretty neutral stance on those adapters.  I'm not sure how well considered jjju's response was back then or if he(DICE?) holds the same position now.

I suspect a number of these instances where PC players are getting smoked by console players is less of a problem with aim assist and more of a problem of KBM+aim assist+the v.recoil reduction intended for controllers.

@AngrySquid270True. They aren't just providing anti-recoil. They are also providing aim-assist for m/k including snap aim and tracking.

@DigitalHype I get you and know what you are talking about. I appreciate the feedback. This brings up a different topic that's for another thread, but my response here was directed to the those that don't want to play with KBM because it's unfair against controller. My point wasn't how it can be manipulated, I'm asking why so many play on controller if MKB is so all powerful?

The sooner the pc players leave console players in peace all the better.

Fed up of all the cheats and settings and filters etc you entitled pc lot think you are.

Just turn off crossplay and talk your entitled trash to each other because no doubt your say they have a 3090 i have a 3080 and its just not fair once you turn off crossplay.

Also as a pc player if your contstantly losing to console players one on one with a bit of aim assist then your just not a good player.

This might hurt your feelings blah blah in this entitled world we live in today but i just do not care your rubbish at the game face up to it and live with it.

Do you really think every PC player is good? The fact right now is that M&K is inconsistent, sometimes you have overaim, sometimes the mouse completely freezes, sometimes you have underaim.
The problem with aim assist in BF is that it works through bushes, smokes or through walls and as a gamepad player you always have a constant slowdown with aim assist.
Just because there are a few good PC M&K players, most of them are still so bad that they would be better with gamepads.