Re: Concussion Grenade

@SeriousJuJu Yes! So it's not just me. You said it a few time and the title says "CONCUSSION" not "FLASH". Why does it need to be in your FOV to have an effect? Was there no testing, or QA that went into this stuff? I mean stuns and flashes have been around for years in FPS, why bork this so badly?

@Echo6Echo

Correct! You will hear the explosion but since you did not see the flash in your FoV it has no effect on you.

Just another thing DICE didn't test correctly!  I wonder how much common sense each of the devs has?

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@Echo6Echo wrote:

@SeriousJuJu Yes! So it's not just me. You said it a few time and the title says "CONCUSSION" not "FLASH". Why does it need to be in your FOV to have an effect? Was there no testing, or QA that went into this stuff? I mean stuns and flashes have been around for years in FPS, why bork this so badly?

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That's exactly it. If they called it a Flashbang that'd be a different thing than a concussion grenade that would be there to disorient.

If a tree falls................. Apparently not in BF 2042 world.

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@Anobix wrote:

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@Echo6Echo wrote:

@SeriousJuJu Yes! So it's not just me. You said it a few time and the title says "CONCUSSION" not "FLASH". Why does it need to be in your FOV to have an effect? Was there no testing, or QA that went into this stuff? I mean stuns and flashes have been around for years in FPS, why bork this so badly?

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That's exactly it. If they called it a Flashbang that'd be a different thing than a concussion grenade that would be there to disorient.

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Concussion grenade and flash bang are often used interchangeably. Just google it.

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@SeriousJuJu wrote:

@Echo6Echo 

There is a problem with the concussion grenades area of effect on where it lands in relation to a player’s FoV. If it doesn't land directly in your targets current field of view it will have no effect. This is just another thing that needs to be looked at and fixed.

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I don't see how this is a problem

You shouldn't be blinded by something you can't see otherwise there will be no counter and it will make an already frustrating infantry experience even more frustrating

A concussion grenade that's blinds everyone in a AOE regarless of if someone is looking at it is OP

I cannot think of a game where flashbangs work like that and for good reasons

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@InS_Hypno wrote:

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@SeriousJuJu wrote:

@Echo6Echo 

There is a problem with the concussion grenades area of effect on where it lands in relation to a player’s FoV. If it doesn't land directly in your targets current field of view it will have no effect. This is just another thing that needs to be looked at and fixed.

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I don't see how this is a problem

You shouldn't be blinded by something you can't see otherwise there will be no counter and it will make an already frustrating infantry experience even more frustrating

A concussion grenade that's blinds everyone in a AOE regarless of if someone is looking at it is OP

I cannot think of a game where Flashbangs work like that and for good reasons

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Well first, it's a "concussion" grenade not a flashbang. Whole other thing and I'm not sure why it blinds you anyway. I can only chalk that up to, it's 2042 and things are confused..

It should have some affect on you no matter where it lands as long as you are in the AoE. The problem is, there is seemingly NO affect on the other player and the hit indicators are broken. I agree that a "concussion" grenade blinding you regardless is one thing, but it should have SOME affect. Concussion grenades have been around in FPS for eons and it's not OP...

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@Echo6Echo wrote:

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@InS_Hypno wrote:

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@SeriousJuJu wrote:

@Echo6Echo 

There is a problem with the concussion grenades area of effect on where it lands in relation to a player’s FoV. If it doesn't land directly in your targets current field of view it will have no effect. This is just another thing that needs to be looked at and fixed.

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I don't see how this is a problem

You shouldn't be blinded by something you can't see otherwise there will be no counter and it will make an already frustrating infantry experience even more frustrating

A concussion grenade that's blinds everyone in a AOE regarless of if someone is looking at it is OP

I cannot think of a game where Flashbangs work like that and for good reasons

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Well first, it's a "concussion" grenade not a flashbang. Whole other thing and I'm not sure why it blinds you anyway. I can only chalk that up to, it's 2042 and things are confused..

It should have some affect on you no matter where it lands as long as you are in the AoE. The problem is, there is seemingly NO affect on the other player and the hit indicators are broken. I agree that a "concussion" grenade blinding you regardless is one thing, but it should have SOME affect. Concussion grenades have been around in FPS for eons and it's not OP...

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Have some kind of effect is fine but blinding everyone in it's AOE regardless of where people would be looking like that guy is suggesting would be OP

Imo it would be a good thing to have throwable that requires more skill/thoughts than just mindlessly throwing it in the general direction of the enemy

It's a concussion grenade, no one should be negating it's affect inside a blast circle for it. If you're looking in it's direction or not, it's still going to explode. 

What skill? No one is going to calculate out y = h + xtan(α) - gx²/2V₀²cos²(α) on a piece of paper when it's thrown.

It's a flipping grenade! You stop pew, pew, pewing and either run away or throw it back.

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@Echo6Echo wrote:

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@InS_Hypno wrote:

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@SeriousJuJu wrote:

@Echo6Echo 

There is a problem with the concussion grenades area of effect on where it lands in relation to a player’s FoV. If it doesn't land directly in your targets current field of view it will have no effect. This is just another thing that needs to be looked at and fixed.

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I don't see how this is a problem

You shouldn't be blinded by something you can't see otherwise there will be no counter and it will make an already frustrating infantry experience even more frustrating

A concussion grenade that's blinds everyone in a AOE regarless of if someone is looking at it is OP

I cannot think of a game where Flashbangs work like that and for good reasons

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Well first, it's a "concussion" grenade not a flashbang. Whole other thing and I'm not sure why it blinds you anyway. I can only chalk that up to, it's 2042 and things are confused..

It should have some affect on you no matter where it lands as long as you are in the AoE. The problem is, there is seemingly NO affect on the other player and the hit indicators are broken. I agree that a "concussion" grenade blinding you regardless is one thing, but it should have SOME affect. Concussion grenades have been around in FPS for eons and it's not OP...

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Now if only we had concussion grenade jumping like back in the QWTF/Team Fortress Classic days... now that would be interesting! [I miss playing that competitively 20+ years ago...]. But in those days it would move your on-screen reticle around and your POV would basically make a figure 8, while your actual aim stayed central. At least that's how it worked in TFC.

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@Anobix wrote:

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@Echo6Echo wrote:

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@InS_Hypno wrote:

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Now if only we had concussion grenade jumping like back in the QWTF/Team Fortress Classic days... now that would be interesting! [I miss playing that competitively 20+ years ago...]. But in those days it would move your on-screen reticle around and your POV would basically make a figure 8, while your actual aim stayed central. At least that's how it worked in TFC.

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Right!! I'm not sure why it blinds you anyway in this game. It's supposed to dampen your sound and disorient you, AKA you can't hear me coming, see very well or accurately shoot a weapon, NONE of which seems to be happening.  Another thing I just notice too. If you want to drop a frag short or over a ledge, you bounce it. You can't do that with these, you're either chucking it the full distance or it's hitting the ground and going off in your face. 🙂

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@SeriousJuJu wrote:

 

It's a concussion grenade, no one should be negating it's affect inside a blast circle for it. If you're looking in it's direction or not, it's still going to explode. 

What skill? No one is going to calculate out y = h + xtan(α) - gx²/2V₀²cos²(α) on a piece of paper when it's thrown.

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God forbid that something that can land you free kills require some kind of skill/thought to be used effectively

Following this logic might aswell make all gun hitscan since no one has time to calculate bullet drop and the lead 

You shouldn't be blinded by something you can't see

Stun the player, blur his vision make his aim move whatever that's annoying but manageable

Blinding everyone in it's AOE is straight up dumb and will make every infantry focused map a concussion grenade spam