Re: 3-click players in PGA Tour

@Noya_WesaI do agree and sympathize with your predicament.

I think the problem might be with the pure number of 3-click players. I have seen a drastic drop in participation in the tournaments as it appears people have stopped playing.

But I agree there should have been something made available for all of us. As 3-clickers are as much a part of the community as anyone else.

Put do remember that the 3-click swing was added late in development, almost as an afterthought. So how much support should you expect to receive...? I cannot answer that.

@ELF014

 

Yeah, I have noticed there seems to be far fewer entries on the days when the arcade 4 hole comes up, as of the players just don't want to play any more. ☹️ 

 

It strikes me as a bit strange that they haven't managed to come up with a solution to allow 3 click play though, given the claims they made about accessibility before the game was even launched. 

 

Also when thinking back to when I first started playing golf on the PC, it was back with the old EA TW games they did all those years ago that had both 3 click and mouse swing support, and my mind simply asks, "why can't they look back and figure out how things work?" 

To be fair: It would be completely unfair to stick the 3 click players and the analog swing players together.

That being said, it would make sense to

- either give full support for 3 click players with their own tournament section, own tickets (tickets earned using 3 click cannot be used for weekly analog tournaments and the other way around) etc etc, even if 3 click was an afterthought. That is, if a sufficient numbers of players actually utilize the 3 click mechanic.

- at least give an alternative "3 click task" whenever the "complete a daily" pops up.


With regards to tournament participation: yea it gotten less, but i think that's because the skill ceiling and accompanying level is rather high these days, so people think twice about investing their reward points / tickets for the increased chance of loosing more than they win.

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@IrieGibbonz wrote:

To be fair: It would be completely unfair to stick the 3 click players and the analog swing players together.

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I agree with that point entirely, there is no true comparison to be made between them. Swing stick is always going to be that bit harder to control, 

The alternatives are (in my opinion at least) what should be looked at, to give an equivalent chance to earn the daily rewards, rather than marginalising one group or another.

Fairness for all is what EA said they are trying to achieve by setting things as they did, but their aim was off. 

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@IrieGibbonz wrote:

To be fair: It would be completely unfair to stick the 3 click players and the analog swing players together.

To be fair you have a "free" to enter tournament for swingers only. You should have a free to enter tournament for three clickers only. And they can't figure out why people think it's unfair.

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And another day to say thanks for nothing EA, as you exclude 3 click from the daily quest again. 

What's that you say, pay more points to enter than I'll get back? get to f... 

Is there any wonder why so many players hold your company in complete contempt? 

Dear devs, if you want respect, try giving some to the players, until then, you get only what you deserve. 

@ELF014 It shouldn't be too difficult for them to offer some kind of alternative, or even to ensure that the daily tournament requirement only comes up when the four hole arcade is available. 
 
At this point it feels as if they are indifferent at best though. 
 
I too have found myself in a situation that although I frequently browse here, I am playing the game far less, and when I do have an urge to play a round or two, I've been loading up '21 by those other people, because at least in that I also get to enjoy the mouse swing input. (I'm not a fan of the messy interface on '23 or I'd play that.)  

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@Noya_Wesa wrote:

@ELF014 It shouldn't be too difficult for them to offer some kind of alternative, or even to ensure that the daily tournament requirement only comes up when the four hole arcade is available. 
 
At this point it feels as if they are indifferent at best though. 
 
I too have found myself in a situation that although I frequently browse here, I am playing the game far less, and when I do have an urge to play a round or two, I've been loading up '21 by those other people, because at least in that I also get to enjoy the mouse swing input. (I'm not a fan of the messy interface on '23 or I'd play that.)  

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We turn everything off in 2K23, the only thing you see is the hole number and scorecard. Oh and the wind direction meter.

I hate what they did with the speed of the backswing in 2K, I found the earlier Golf Club games better, though the the ball physics have gotten better in the later games.

I swear they do this on purpose, to break something just to have a future project.

Golf games have been around a long time. Maybe not the first but I think there was an Atari 2600 game released in 1980. That's 43 years ago... if you look at how far technology has come... golf games haven't really kept pace. And I'm not talking about graphical enhancements... I'm strictly talking about gameplay... and understanding the game of golf.

If you are developing a golf game you need to have an ex-professional golfer on staff explaining how things work. 

But if you are NOT creating a SIM, but just a general representation of the game... then I get it.

Mea Culpa... this has all been on me.

And another day of EA saying, "we hate 3 click players." 

Why is so difficult EA, for you to not include the pathetic requirement of playing in a daily tournament that costs more than you can earn back in points, so that everybody is on an equal footing when it comes to being able to do the daily quest? 

Is it too complex for you to wrap your heads around, or is it that you simply hate anybody who can't use a game controller?  

I'd love to be able to use a controller in all truth, but I have limited mobility on both thumbs, so gripping and manipulating a controller is almost impossible without forcing more pain that it'd be worth, so I'm stuck with 3 click, unless they add mouse swing as an input method. A mouse can be guided with just downward pressure of the hand, and I can adjust my rest position to hold the side with my index finger instead of the thumb, or better yet, I can use a trackpad in mouse mode, as I do for 2K21. 

Re 23, I bought the TW Edition, but still much prefer 21. 🙂 

@Noya_WesaSorry to hear about the limited mobility on the thumbs. It surprises me that the EA does not have tournaments for 3 click players. Requiring tournament participation for daily quests is not a good idea especially for 3 click players and also when tournaments are not available.

@PalomaMarvel24Thank you for the kind words. 🙂  

 

Today is another of the days when they have the 'participate in a daily tournament' as part of the daily quest.  

It costs 4000 points to enter the arcade mode today which is the only one open to 3 click players...

"Thanks for nothing EA, you useless pr____."

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@SlimDown57 wrote:

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@IrieGibbonz wrote:

To be fair: It would be completely unfair to stick the 3 click players and the analog swing players together.

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To be fair you have a "free" to enter tournament for swingers only. You should have a free to enter tournament for three clickers only. And they can't figure out why people think it's unfair.

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If you read my entire post and didn't stop after the initial sentence as quoted, you'd probably have notice that i'm on your side. 

All i said with that sentence was "pls don't mix analog and 3 click players", then i went on and wrote that if sufficient number of players utilize the 3 click mechanic, it would be an option to, quote: "give full support for 3 click players with their own tournament section", and that would obviously include a free daily even though i didn't explicitly write that.

Also i took the freedom to put your reply to that quoted sentence of mine where it belongs, so that it doesn't look like i wrote that 1 sentence and replied to it myself, with an empty reply on your end.

Finally, sorry for the late reply, still rooting for your cause.