Re: Random Frametime spikes
@RichiN3 wrote:Product: F1 23
Platform:PC
Please specify your platform model. PC
Summarize your bug Sudden and random frametime spikes
What is your 16 digit Report Code? SMEG-JTEM-JJER-KGSE
Can you please provide the name of your current internet service provider?
Which area is the bug/glitch in? Single Player
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Happens in every gamemode at random times
What happens when the bug occurs? Noticable freeze / frametime spike
What do you expect to see? Consistent and stable framerate
Hello everyone!
I'm struggling with weird frametime spikes in recent F1 games, currently with F1 23.
Because I simply cannot find a solution for this, I try my luck here in the forum.
Attached you should find the DxDiag and two Screenshots with the relevant graphs (ignore the beginning and end of the graphs as that was when the game launched and closed).
The graph was recorded whilst I was standing still at the final corner of Spa in timetrial. However, those stutters also happen in benchmarks, in Grand Prix and at different tracks.
(Mainboard would be a MSI Pro Z-790 A WIFI if required)
Hardware should be absolutly enough, and in the tests I've done I can get over 200fps without a limiter, but still get sutters / frame time spikes.
No component on my system is overclocked, so that shouldn't result in instability.
Temps are also nowhere near for overheating.
Here are the things I've already tried (atleast the things I've noted down):
- Playing on SSD and M2
- HAGS on/off
- Gsync on/off
- Different GPU drivers
- Disabling RGB on GPU
- Diffrent VBIOS of the GPU
- Different mainboard BIOS versions
- 2. monitor off
- Game mode on/off
- Different fps limits (seems to be worse at lower fps limits)
- Different fps limiting software
- DDU
- Manually clearing Shader cache
- Lowest graphic settings
- Lowest graphic settings + asynchronus compute (AC off makes it worse)
- Reset Settings in Nvidia control panel
- Fullscreen + Gsync in fullscreen only
- Deleting hardware_config
- Repairing game
- Reinstalling game
- System checks
- Hardware checks (Memory, drives, etc.)
- XMP on/off
- Clean boot
- Disabling CFG (for F1 and in general)
And here are some things I've observed while testing:
- Frame limiters seem to be bugged? With Reflex off and just the limiter, the locked framerate does not match with the setting. For example - if I limit the framerate to 140fps, the game runs at 138fps. If I set it at 135, the game runs at 133 and so on.
- With Reflex / Low-Latency-Mode on, my frames are limited at 137-138 (as it should).
- Lower framerate limits seems to make the problem worse (especially at 60fps).
- It seems to only affect the newer F1 games (tested until F1 2018).
- Other games don't seem to have any major issues like F1
I'm at a loss and can't seem to find the problem, so any ideas / solutions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance.
Looks like UEFI A.A1 (beta) is released.
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-WIFI/support
Update the UEFI and ME. MSI SOP for each process is there.
XMP should be enabled - Memtest to be sure.
If you have modded the VBIOS, change it back to stock, latest.
Update the mainboard driver.
DDU the GPU driver. Resist the temptation to set any options. Don’t run ray tracing unless you are prepared to fix at 60fps. Would honestly try disconnecting one monitor as well. VSYNC on in game.
Would advise you find a setting that doesn’t spike on one monitor first. Try RT if you get it working well. Try the second screen with RT off then RT on.
There’s other stuff that points to driver issues because it is still a 4090 all said and done. (WER issues with SkyGo and Firefox)
The USB audio, why? Is it a USB speaker or headset?
I would also question the RAID setup on the other drives. To troubleshoot, install Steam and the game to C:\
Use the Kingston SSD software to check firmware and setting.
Maybe try standard NVMe driver - I realise this may require to reinstall Windows.
Game mode leave off. Leave HAGS alone.
Ensure you have updated all your mouse and keyboard software to check firmware. Don’t install MSI utility or RGB controls just disconnect it.
Just use Afterburner to check frames.
Plenty to go at. Good luck.
