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3 years ago

Re: F1 22 4k at 120 fps (PS5)?

@Nuvolarix 

Given that F1 2021 has a 120Hz mode, I think we can assume 2022 will too*

*TBC

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  • Ultrasonic_77's avatar
    Ultrasonic_77
    Hero
    3 years ago

    @ajobling1983 wrote:

    @EA_Barry wrote:

    @Nuvolarix 

    Given that F1 2021 has a 120Hz mode, I think we can assume 2022 will too*

    *TBC


    @ 4k ?


    No, and as you suggest the PS5 isn't capable of 4k @ 120 Hz for a game like F1 22 so I'm certain it won't do this. There's a Digital Foundry video which gives details of what F1 2021 managed if anyone really want to know but from memory I think it was around the 1400p point.

    I very happily use the 120 Hz mode of F1 2021 on my PS5 though - frame rate is far more important than a minor change in resolution.

  • ScarDuck14's avatar
    ScarDuck14
    Legend
    3 years ago

    With forced VRR if 22 is like 2021 you will get better picture quality.  As is looks identical I’m assuming it will.  

    And you can turn forced vrr on and off in game and I find the difference is very noticeable.  

  • Ultrasonic_77's avatar
    Ultrasonic_77
    Hero
    3 years ago

    @ScarDuck14 wrote:

    With forced VRR if 22 is like 2021 you will get better picture quality.  As is looks identical I’m assuming it will.  

    And you can turn forced vrr on and off in game and I find the difference is very noticeable.  


    I still don't think the difference you experienced was due to VRR I'm afraid. The point of VRR is to hide issues with unstable frame rate, not to improve image quality. I think there was an associated change in the image processing on your TV that is happening but has nothing to do with VRR.

    If a game wanted to make use of VRR to improve (static) image quality it could do so by increasing resolution/draw distances etc in a way that would have previously been an issue as it made the frame rate unstable but the issue that far from everyone has a VRR capable display. Possibly all 120 Hz displays do though? 

  • ScarDuck14's avatar
    ScarDuck14
    Legend
    3 years ago

    Even says in the menu that forcing vrr will likely improve image quality 🙄depending on tv

  • Nuvolarix's avatar
    Nuvolarix
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    BTW I assume you can see a noticeable difference between Performance and Quality mode in-game but, where else can you see that you are going at 120 fps?

    In the settings of the PS5 there is a panel dedicated to the screen but I assume that there is still seen in 60 hz?

    Thank you to everyone posting in this topic 🙂

    Nuv

  • Ultrasonic_77's avatar
    Ultrasonic_77
    Hero
    3 years ago

    @ScarDuck14 wrote:

    Even says in the menu that forcing vrr will likely improve image quality 🙄depending on tv


    As we've discussed before - it means by smoothing frame rate instabilities.

    I'm only posting this as I fear you're likely to make others expect to see improvements that won't be there. 

  • Ultrasonic_77's avatar
    Ultrasonic_77
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    3 years ago

    @Nuvolarix wrote:

    BTW I assume you can see a noticeable difference between Performance and Quality mode in-game but, where else can you see that you are going at 120 fps?

    In the settings of the PS5 there is a panel dedicated to the screen but I assume that there is still seen in 60 hz?

    Thank you to everyone posting in this topic 🙂

    Nuv


    If you're asking how you can be certain it's running at 120 Hz, on at least LG TVs you can get them to show you the current frame rate.

  • Nuvolarix's avatar
    Nuvolarix
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @Ultrasonic_77 wrote:

    @Nuvolarix wrote:

    BTW I assume you can see a noticeable difference between Performance and Quality mode in-game but, where else can you see that you are going at 120 fps?

    In the settings of the PS5 there is a panel dedicated to the screen but I assume that there is still seen in 60 hz?

    Thank you to everyone posting in this topic 🙂

    Nuv


    If you're asking how you can be certain it's running at 120 Hz, on at least LG TVs you can get them to show you the current frame rate.


    Nope, I’m using a monitor currently 60hz going to buy a 120+, that’s why I’m asking for

  • Ultrasonic_77's avatar
    Ultrasonic_77
    Hero
    3 years ago

    @Nuvolarix wrote:

    @Ultrasonic_77 wrote:

    @Nuvolarix wrote:

    BTW I assume you can see a noticeable difference between Performance and Quality mode in-game but, where else can you see that you are going at 120 fps?

    In the settings of the PS5 there is a panel dedicated to the screen but I assume that there is still seen in 60 hz?

    Thank you to everyone posting in this topic 🙂

    Nuv


    If you're asking how you can be certain it's running at 120 Hz, on at least LG TVs you can get them to show you the current frame rate.


    Nope, I’m using a monitor currently 60hz going to buy a 120+, that’s why I’m asking for


    Sorry but I don't understand what your question was then?

  • Nuvolarix's avatar
    Nuvolarix
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @Ultrasonic_77 wrote:

    @Nuvolarix wrote:

    @Ultrasonic_77 wrote:

    @Nuvolarix wrote:

    BTW I assume you can see a noticeable difference between Performance and Quality mode in-game but, where else can you see that you are going at 120 fps?

    In the settings of the PS5 there is a panel dedicated to the screen but I assume that there is still seen in 60 hz?

    Thank you to everyone posting in this topic 🙂

    Nuv


    If you're asking how you can be certain it's running at 120 Hz, on at least LG TVs you can get them to show you the current frame rate.


    Nope, I’m using a monitor currently 60hz going to buy a 120+, that’s why I’m asking for


    Sorry but I don't understand what your question was then?


    How can I check frame rate (PS5) using a monitor. From what I understand you were speaking about a TV, but perhaps it’s only my lack of knowledge about since I don’t have a 120+ hz monitor yet, thanks anyway

  • AkingsOMG's avatar
    AkingsOMG
    Rising Newcomer
    3 years ago

    F1 2021 indeed had the option to run at 120 FPS on the PS5, but the image resolution definitely drops. It’s subtle, but you’re not getting same image quality as you do in graphics mode. You notice it right from the loading screen. 

    There’s a smoothness to the gameplay that’s hard to describe when you bump up from 60 to 120 FPS though that’s probably worth the trade off for crispness of image - but I can’t wait for the day where 4K and high frame rates in gaming aren’t mutually exclusive! 

    I did a test on the PC version of the game with an AMD 5900x and GeForce 3080 with all of the graphics settings on ultra, and could only sniff 70 FPS. Without ray tracing and reducing shadow quality, 150 FPS in 4K was consistent. I saw a few  videos online that showed even with a 3090, 120 was not achievable with max settings in 4K. 

  • Nuvolarix's avatar
    Nuvolarix
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @AkingsOMG absolutely agree about 4k and 120 🙂

    BTW anyone running the PS4 software version of F1 2021 in a PS5, in this case the 120 fps are possible?

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