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Re: Start Banning Smurfs

What everyone seems to be missing in this thread is that SBMM is broken for most people on their main accounts. There have been other detailed write ups, but in short, whatever data has been collected on people playing since day 1 puts them in games with people they stand no chance against.

When these same people make a new account, within about 5 matches or so they are placed against people who are actually similarly skilled and provide somewhat difficulty to play with.

I.E. on this account, i've been playing since launch, my KD is only about 1.2 and I am forever put in lobbies with 20 kill badge, 4k damage players who just wreck the entire lobby.

On my second account, I actually get put against people who (like me) sometimes forget to strafe, miss a reload or a weapon swap, or otherwise make an occasional mistake that can make or break the game. On average, my damage per game has gone way up but my kills per game is staying around the same. This tells me i'm getting put with players who are capable of healing and hiding and similarly skilled to me.

Everyone also seems to forget that, just because the person that wrecked your face seemed overly good, it doesn't necessarily mean they are a smurf. It is possible for people who play FPS every day of their life to give Apex a try and while they are playing their first few rounds, SBMM hasn't been able to properly put them with the necessary players equivalent to them because it hasn't figured out their capabilities yet but it will improve.

The other thing people forget is, we all have good games and we all have bad games. Maybe you have a really good game and get 9 kills and 2000 damage and SBMM bumps you up a tier into a new rank. Now you get your face stomped and you just assume these people are smurfs when in reality its likely just the same people who ran you over like a freight train on their way to that 'rung' on the SBMM ladder that you just got put in.

You cant always be put with people that are weaker than you. Think about the game from their point of view. They'd have a perpetual feeling of exact frustration you feel when you get run over, and ultimately they would leave.

Your logic to ban smurfs is illogical. Most of the smurfs are simply trying to climb the rungs of SBMM to play with people who are truly similarly skilled. You might get put with "smurfs" once and when they steamroll the lobby they get pushed up the ladder and with other people. It's part of the game, you cant assume a persons difficulty and positioning when there isn't enough data to place them properly. And to add to it, most "smurfs" are only creating "smurfs" because their main accounts are broken.

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6 Replies

  • HugoHobickaStop's avatar
    HugoHobickaStop
    6 years ago
    @SombrePerdition Have you recently played silver / gold ELO?do you know what's going on there now?at every step you can meet people 20lvl 4k dmg 20kills badge.I don't know if they do boosting or do it for my own pleasure probably both.It's really bothersome
  • FaIIenAngeI777's avatar
    FaIIenAngeI777
    6 years ago
    @SombrePerdition ‘’Just because someone who wrecked your face seems overly good dosn’t mean they are a smurf’’ there literally level 1-20s with 3-4k damage badges and some with 20 kill badges i think its safe to say they are smurfing
  • Zkepz's avatar
    Zkepz
    6 years ago
    @HugoHobickaStopa I agree, my last 6 games i had team lvls 16-36 joining my quickmatch and dropping if they dont get sweaty loadout within the first dropzone. The fun had been seripisly zapped out of midlevel rank.
  • @Zkepz I don’t know if all the low levels are part of smurfing or not but I see level 1s to players with hundreds of wins so I dont really understand the current state of sbmm, ive seen alot of level 1-2s as champions aswell with 0 kills lmao, honestly there maybe more smurfs the only obvious ones are the ones showing off 4k badges and 20 kill badges or are like level 10 with 200+ kills

    Theres alot of players who probally dont even show their stats but it can stilll be pretty obvious if you catch them doing advanced things like the zipline wall jumping thing in capitol which im pretty sure 99% of real nubs would never know how to do that lmao
  • Zkepz's avatar
    Zkepz
    6 years ago
    @FaIIenAngeI777 I see by the loadout choices, movement on the map, where they dropped and how fast they vacuum a building that they are quite a bit higher level. But a lvl 2 with 0 kills and champ is easy to do if he won the previous game with a good share of kills he will most likely be champ, and then joining as an unplayed legend you get that result 🙂
  • @ZkepzThats how I figured it would happen, that they was playing a diff character than the first match so shows 0 kills

    another thing that may happen, i watched zeus’s video a few weeks ago where it queued him with a brand new level 1 lifeline who didnt even know they had a healing drone so he kept telling them to heal throughout the whole match but they ran around with low health the whole game until he dropped them some syringes and they finally used those lol, maybe they queue level 1s with pros to get a easy win so they want to stay in the game and play more idk

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