Harsh reality..
So here's what I figure or in my personal opinion. It's all about numbers, the more people they have playing the game, the more relevant they stay in the world of gaming. Which translates to people...
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@RaginSam
"I don't care about investors, targets, or any of that, and I don't think you should either. I always find that weird when gamers do."
The thing to remember here is that if you have a 401k then the odds are quite high that you are an EA shareholder. Don't know if this group includes you but it definitely includes me. So while I very much view this game from the perspective of a player, I also view it from the perspective of an owner.
"Making games NEEDS to be about finding the fun...."
100% true, but somebody somewhere still has to make sure the lights stay on and the payroll gets made. Business and creativity are yin and yang.
The bigger problem here, as I see it, is that Respawn could create the perfect anti-cheat tomorrow and ban these people by the tens of thousands. And they'd all be back the next day on a secondary. Which creates even more problems than the original cheating did. Assuming the ban doesn't actually stop the cheating and they're willing to secondary until that one gets caught too. And it seems pretty likely they'd keep cheating as cheats are expensive and also: nothing to lose. There's no reason not to keep cheating. And creating new accounts. In a perpetual cycle of crime and punishment.
Sorry. I wish I had better news.
@reconzeroI don't think that's how things work... your explanation is riddled with flaws. Crime and punishment?! What?! LOL.
And sure, someone has to care about the financials, but you and I certainly don't. It's pointless to bring up in the forums.
If you ban cheaters, and make it more automated, then how would people keep coming back exactly? They could implement some sort of trust element into the game. You have to be a certain level, higher than what it currently is to get into ranked, and the higher the level you are, the more trusted you become. It's a buffer to keep cheaters out of ranked. There will always be cheaters in F2P games, but make it much harder for them to play ranked.
There are so many ways to combat the problem, it's no where near impossible. Since you can't imagine a solution, doesn't mean others haven't thought of good ways of dealing with it.
- @RaginSam
Expand on "It's a buffer to keep cheaters out of ranked." Does this mean that we don't care if people cheat in pubs? Does this mean that no cheater will bother to bot an account up to the required level to get into ranked? Do people not already make and sell such accounts to others?
"Since you can't imagine a solution, doesn't mean others haven't thought of good ways of dealing with it."
And yet, here we are, with no developer that I know of having taken anything like definitive steps that have resulted in anything close to a cheater-free game. If the people with the greatest interest in ending cheating, the people with the resources, professional, technical, and financial... if these people haven't put a stop to it then one of two things is possible. A. It's a conspiracy on the part of the developers to make more money. Or B. The problem is harder to solve than "doesn't mean others haven't thought of good ways of dealing with it."Cheaters are going to cheat. It's an incredibly difficult problem to solve and I'm sure that the Apex folks are doing what they can. Every time you find a fix or a tell they update it to be something else. It's a constant game of whack-a-mole.
It's pretty sad people feel the need to do this but that's people. Gaming communities have a toxic side and there isn't much you can do about it. I stopped playing FIFA (or EAFC or whatever they call it now) for exactly this reason, the community is just so bad. They are just broken humans.
- @RockDokRock They can definetly do more…
