Nothing matters until you get cheating under control

Your not wrong. The only ones who benefit are the pro's and the cheaters. I been hearing some pros say, "oh but now anyone can kill faster" .  They love the new update, because it just buffs a skill they already had. My point is, the better players, the cheaters and controller aim assisters all have yet another advantage over the casual player who doesn't spend  hours and hours perfecting their aim....most likely because they have real jobs and cant spend every waking moment playing games and working on aim skill.

If your in a lobby with "average skill" players, then you actually have a chance of getting a kill or not being killed in a fraction of a second. You get any of the smurfs in there, and there are literally tons of them, then your just cannon fodder for their stats, which is gonna drive people away from the game. That's the truth.  I doubt very much the devs even consider these factors.

It's unplayable for me at the moment. There's no time to react, like it wasn't great before, but at least you could take damage for a split second and make a move. Now, I'm left with 10 hp after I peek someone. I always have around 30 ping, and it feels like I'm getting punished for it. 

I have pretty decent aim, but yeah, either people are on roller, practice A LOT, or just cheat. It's really impossible to keep up even if you are fairly sweaty yourself. My setup is all geared towards playing competitively in shooters, and it just feels like I can't do anything this season. Even if I'm doing alright, my teammates always seem to just get deleted instantly first. 

I'm pretty frustrated with this, and looks like others are too. The numbers are really starting to drop today, and it's only been a week? I'll come back after they sort this out, but until then, I'm playing anything but this garbage of a season. It truly feels like they don't understand what their game is at this point. This is just wildly throwing things at the wall, seeing what sticks. There needs to be more thought put into the tuning of their sandbox. 

Thanks for responding. 

I agree with you, I'm not liking it all that much. So frustrating being melted in a fraction of a second. I watched a very popular streamer get so frustrated he told the stream he had to quit. You could tell he was about to literally lose his marbles. That's a pro pred player, and I've been watching many of them to get a good idea of what the general consensus on the changes are. Some  say they like it...until they get absolutely melted, then they are in disbelief and the excuse train begins, but we all know...its all good when it works for you and you have a 3 stacked team just steam rolling everyone, but outside of that, being insta melted can change that tune very quickly. lol

My fav game, and I really don't enjoy playing it so much anymore. Too much waiting around, for some real crappy team mates, maybe a bit of loot if your lucky, followed by insta melt death because I don't have the reflexes and aim of a aircraft carrier Phalanx system lol. Not a fun experience anymore. 

Yeah, every match is nothing but cheaters running around one shotting everybody.   About 75% of every mixtape lobby is cheaters, and that probably holds true for br too since I get one shotted first enemy I meet in every match.  Only kills I've gotten for this new season are from blind siding a cheater while they are one shotting multiple enemies and distracted.  

My question is why are they catering to these cheaters for?  Is this really the demographic that spends the most?  They make it where shots don't even count for legit players that spent thousands of hours honing their skills so that players with no skill can kill anyone instantly in under 3 shots.  This is ridiculous.

They banned that config cheat that allows tap and neo strafing for one day and these so called pros whine like babies that they are leaving apex for fortnite or other games if they don't allow it again.  One said that program allows for 1000 inputs per second.  It was fun that day watching these people die much faster than me because I realized I have much more skills than they do since they can't survive without mods.  

I wish they would stop this cheater meta and put the game back to what it was.  If the cheaters quit so what?  Get the old players back that left through a promotion by putting the game back to what it used to be and banning all of the cheaters.  They whine on the net let them whine, tell them to go to Fortnite and see if they will put up with their 1000 inputs per second and one shotting every enemy they see.  I guarantee they won't last 3 days at Fortnite.  Then they can come back here to Apex and learn some skills in the firing range through honest hard work like I had to.

Every single time they make META changes it's like askin drunk baboon to change volume from volume wheel... It's goin either side never middle where balance is. I've played prob 20hrs now of new season and have been killed by a cheater prob like 30-40% of the matches all low lvl and when spectatin' all aimbotting and wallin hittin 10+ kills in couple of minutes. I have 11k hours in apex so pretty easy to see when someone is not legit. Game is not about skill no more it's pretty much who shoots first all premade teams having completly broken ash and completly broken L-star. SoloQ has always been a pain but now it's even worse. What was the point to make knocks crawl like walkin speed like did anyone ask this? Nope. BY FAR WORST SEASON EVER - I dunno if this the time to move on and forget the entire apex as I haven't enjoyed playin this at all this season had to force myself open the game. They did the same thing with newcastle why buff already strong legend, the changes buffs and nerfs don't make sense to anyone, dev's living in their own dreamworld and prob none of em actually play the game.  It's quite funny this video they made actually shows none of it actually happend.

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The lurching in this game really needs to get under control. To give Respawn some credit, they have tried a couple of times now, but they caved to the whiny few. Like regular players probably cried a bit too, but they would get over it quickly, because realistically they weren't really using it to begin with.

The reason why I think so many people are cheating, is that they have ZERO movement penalties when shooting at people. They can be doing any action, and still have 100% accuracy. I don't buy that the average player is capable of doing that. Another thing is that I play really carefully, and try to be stealthy at times, but these guys always have this sense like they know I'm near. I bet they have the cheat where it lets them know a player is near. I also get targeted a lot in gunfights, like they know they need to knock me first in order to win the fight. They'll completely ignore my teammates, which are often poorly positioned and not in cover, yet they just keep beaming me while I peek from behind cover, in between the tiniest of gaps. 

I think the reason they can't, or won't, get the cheats in order, is because it's a calculated risk. We'll lose X amount of players if we ban more aggressively, which they are spending money, or we can keep legit players, yet they're spending less. The perception of us banning people is good enough basically, at least to the point that people who are going to spend still feel comfortable spending money on the game. That was clunky, but you catch my drift. 

All these guys think they're so amazing until they actually solo queue lol. Its good to hear that even at the highest levels its frustrating. 

I've come to the realization that the lower TTK really makes it harder to solo queue. My teammates are getting killed so quickly that I can't do anything. Also, 3rd parties are worse than ever right now. Teams are finishing fights so quickly that they just wander to the next. Every fight ends up having multiple teams it feels like. So that's a big fail if they were trying to lessen that. 

The funny thing about all this is that I have practically never experienced having cheaters in my team in this game (I only play solo queque), but this season I won at least 3-4 ranked games thanks to having cheaters on my team (they usually played together as a duo). This self-confidence, pushing in places where there were several teams, wallhacking... Something beautiful... It's a pity that nothing detects it. :D They just played without me because I usually couldn't keep up. By the time I got to them, it was all over haha ​​:D

Of course, I report every such person, even on my team, but I never get a response regarding the reports. The only response I sometimes get is when I report someone for text chat. And that's all.

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If artificial intelligence were ubiquitous as Anti-Cheat in every match, I am convinced that within a moment dozen thousand accounts would be banned in the PC lobby alone. Well, profits will decline, so it's not profitable for everyone, right. :)

Unplayable. Tried again, no idea why. Hear shots at Fight night, go to check it out. Get beamed by someone I can't even see. Keep in mind, I'm no where near it yet, just heard the shots and walked towards it. Playing Ash, so I see a couple of fresh Death Boxes, but not a full wipe though. Proceeded to get chased down after my teammate got insta-melted, and then lose to some "Rookie" player. Which half my shots wouldn't register properly. They're the only one on their team with damage and kills btw. 

I don't know what else to say at this point. COMPLETE, and UTTER GARBAGE of a season. Raise the tick rate, DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE CHEATERS, raise the TTK, and most importantly, PLAY YOUR OWN F'ING GAME!!! You need to play daily to understand why you're changing values, tweaking legends, raising or lowering the TTK. You're clueless Respawn. Stop listening to stock holders, they don't play your game.

"Stop listening to stock holders, they don't play your game."

And yet, this is the way or the world. Respawn is under the thumb of EA. EA only cares about the revenue stream. It's been down significantly for two or three straight seasons. EA sends a hatchet man to Respawn and he says, "Make it go back up yesterday. I don't care how you do it as long as it doesn't cost any money." And some poor schlub at Respawn has to do SOMETHING or lose his job. He can't spend any money, like on anti-cheat, because EA won't give him a budget. All he can do, the ONLY thing he can do, is change values. Legend traits, weapon characteristics, etc. That's it. And he knows that he has to go BIG so that he can show the overlords at EA that he didn't just sit on his butt. If he goes big and it still fails then it's not on him and maybe, just maybe, he gets to keep his job. This is a textbook case of the greed/toxicity continuum. EA wants the game to make money without actually having to put any money back into it. Wilson's "Apex 2.0" bombshell proves that by the time they understand they have a problem it's already too late. And their "solution" is still years away.

And at this point, even if everything reverts back to "normal" for next season... is that really all it would take to satisfy the player base? Going back to something that was pretty bad, just not AS bad as it ultimately got? I just can't see it. I can't see that working. It still doesn't address the cheating or the rampant secondaries. Which, imo, are the two most crippling features of this game right now. I'll take an OP Ash any day to a genuine aimbotter/wall hacker. Or a diamond tier sweat posing as a level 14 noob.