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Look at what you get just from get go firing up the game, it's like a recipe from everything you don't want, and people have complained about in games for decades:
· ridiculous user interface that's awkward and ugly
· nauseating shaky cam background screens
· hideous twitchy neurotic looking characters
· cartoon porno cosplay costume uniforms
Then you head into the terrible match making interface with nothing but the above to drive you bonkers, while you wait, and wait -- and wait some more to join a server on the other side of the planet where you'll have a ping measured in minutes... Fantastic! Then once you've actually joined a game you'll discover a litany of features that differentiated Battlefield from other FPS games, of which many were regarded as essential canon to the franchise -- are simply gone, or so screwed up they're useless:
· command menu is useless (commo-rose for off voip players)
· spotting for all players (only via drone, or spot seats with no rewards)
· weapon mounting
· large stationary weapons
· commander mode
· squad management screen
· full player scoreboard
· rifle zeroing
· crouch sprinting
· supine stance
· leaning
· building fortifications
· complete structural destruction
· damage indicator
· classes
· factions
· buckets of interaction animations
· squad points & reinforcement
· nearby grenade UI indicator
· grenade throw back
· shoot-able munitions (grenades, c4, etc.)
· mud & terrain effects on player & weapons
· vehicle customization
· conquest objective area definition (highlight or borders so you know you're capturing)
· class & weapon specific progression
· player stats page
· boats
· swimming
· smoke & gas grenades
· gas masks
· sniper kill count
· auto-lock ammo & bandage throw
Breaking this down by category from Redit posts of missing features, broken features and bugs would make a list too large for a single post but here's an update of some of the most frequently described:
Core Features
· no single-player story/campaign mode
· no standard server browser
· fewer standard game modes
· no persistent lobbies
· no class system
· fewer character customization options
· no profile progress/status page\
· no battle log/stats tracker
· no global leader boards
· no end of round assignment progress screen
· no custom emblems
· very few achievements
· no medals
· no cross-game profile screen
· no spectator mode
· no persistent community servers (for clans and competitive events)
· no central US servers
· no test range
· no 3D spotting (on the largest BF maps ever -- ludicrous)
· very poor balance between vehicle and infantry gameplay
· maximum of only 4 guns per class (BF4 had 100)
Infantry
· can't see your fire mode unless aimed (this is upside down)
· fewer guns (even including all the portal guns, BF4 still had more at launch)
· fewer ewer infantry gadgets
· no manual leaning
· no stealth/diving while swimming
· no high wall vaulting
· no crouch sprinting
· no backwards prone roll
· no explosion knockback
· no rolling after falling from heights
· no ammo or health pickup off teammates
· no tiered reloads/paused reloads
· no melee weapon choices
· no thermal optics
· no indirect fire gadgets
· fewer anti-material weapons & launchers
· no lock-on launchers
· no AP mines/claymores
· no suppression mechanic
· no first person takedown animations
Vehicles
· fewer vehicle types
· no naval boats
· no vehicle gunner direction indicator
· no lock on direction indicator
· no vehicle enter/exit animations
· no tank turret decoupling
· missing vehicle driver/pilot customization options
· no armored vehicle zoom customization options
· no tank gunner customization options
· no heli gunner secondary weapons
· no separate heli/fixed-wing controls
· no rocket aiming reticle for helicopters
· no control input while looking behind/free looking in aircraft
· no joystick/non-generic gamepad support
· flight model is terrible downgrade from previous
· no behemoths
· AA lock takes longer than some aircraft flare regen
Scoring System
· no player damage points
· no vehicle damage points
· no vehicle kill assist points
· no squad wipe scoring
· no headshot bonus
· no long-range kill bonus
· no assist counts as kill bonus
· no multi-kill bonus
· no killstreak stopped bonus
· no comeback bonus
· no squad objective play bonus
· simplified teamwork scoring (healing a teammate always gives you a flat +5xp rather than being based on how much you heal them)
Squad & Teamwork
· dramatically fewer rewards & incentives for teamwork
· no commander
· no special squad call-in abilities
· no squad field upgrades
· no in-game VOIP
· fewer factions
· factions/teams look identical
· no cross-team chat
· no team changing
· no squad creation
· no clans/platoons
· no view of squad mate view while in the spawn screen
· no "Medic Incoming" indicator in downed state
· no rank names/icons just a number
Maps
· no persistent servers
· no functional map rotation
· fewer base game maps
· no static weapon emplacements
· few destructibles
· no complete destruction
· no infantry focused maps
· game changing levolution
· zero cover between capture zones
· terrible spawn locations (easily camped by covered/concealed campers)
· fortification building
· fewer urban areas
· no naval maps
UI
· fewer control customization options
· setting on/off toggle is inconsistent
· fewer UI customization options
· no HUD/icon transparency customization
· no HUD scaling customization options
· no gunsight reticle customization options
· no network performance graph
· no individual player scoreboard
· no ability to zoom in on the spawn map
· less detail in the 'who killed you' screen
· no wide screen support (HUD ratio is locked in at 16:9)
· no friend joining system (no server browser makes playing with more than 4 friends impossible)
· poor console aim assist. Hopefully this will come with the D1 patch or all console players will be lost...
· no in-game cross-play toggle (global setting only)
· can't disable horrible overlong intro and outro screens
· no vehicle count
· no friendly name tag option
· in Hazard Zone can't change specialists unless you press space on PC
Audio
· inconsistent incongruent sound design
· 3D Foley is almost non-existent
· terrible monotonous music score
· end of round music is dull and uninteresting (compared to BF1 and V this is a big downgrade)
· end of round voice lines are triggering everyone and can not be turned off
· terrible voice acting
Bugs
· dead bodies block turret
· weapons swap freezing
· E to exit vehicles as a passenger is bugged
· grenade kills not awarded consistently
· insertion points take up to a second to place, making them hard to use
· screen shake can often make the placement invalid
· cannot revive players against walls
· many revive bugs
· smoke grenades often don't detonate
· plus system has many bugs loading attachments
· character animation freezes when tac running
· spawning under map falling through map glitches
· teammates show up as enemies
· sometimes cannot switch to gun after exiting a vehicle
· exiting aircraft commonly force you back in or clip you to top of vehicle
· hit registration issues
· hit registration cheats and exploits since alpha still going
· server lag (independent of ping)
· input lag
The biggest bummer of all, is what some hoped would be Battlefield 2142's salvation and saving grace: Portal. Not only doesn't redeem the most glaring flaws, but is completely moot in its present form as there are just many missing core features that make BF fun, that you won't be able to put back in the game -- it's just a feature limited sand box, you can't add to and a dead end. Worse, it appears to run on some horrible listen server setup with cloud setting support, so it can't even be run off line for single player...
It's truly sad that Battlefield 2142 so disturbingly bad; it's like EA went out of their way to do opposite of everything BF fans have clamored for, and made everything fans have complained about worse... Perhaps EA is singed on to ESG, and is getting more money that way to make the 'Woke' game world of Harrison Bergeron, but there's not much of a game left with that approach... Maybe there's a new audience for this sort of...thing, it sure doesn't include me, or ANY Battlefield fans I know...
- 4 years ago
Yes, all the comments here -- spot on: cringy canny valley end of match taunt/brag/boast crap is like something out of a kiddie cartoon, the music is horrible and pales next to the epic atmospheric score in other BF games, the characters all look like a bunch of creepy bar flies not military professionals, actual game design is a hodge-podge of bad ideas from other games, and more poorly executed as well.
It's like EA tore though everything that defines a Battlefield game and said 'Battlefield in name only people!'. If they'd called the game anything else but Battlefield, priced it about 80% less, and were publishing a tiny indie team -- some of this might make sense. Which makes me wonder if this isn't 'woke' ESG money steering the agenda.
- 4 years ago
Yes, EA's misguided greed in trying to make more money buy appealing to virtually every game genre's audience, with BATTLEFIELD IP that has two decades of established game canon that consistently drew an enormous audience and sales, add their absolutely horrific, racist stereotypes in the approach to ESG that has been taken here -- makes this more of a train wreck simulator on every level than a game.
As well the duplicitous and dishonest marketing, equally misleading damage control, record setting bad ratings (second worst all time rating now on Steam and still going down, lowest rating on Metacritic etc.), and the gruesomely bad approach to ESG is going to come at enormous cost: returns and subscription cancellations are already setting records, and that will just get worse, new sales will tank, EA stock price is going to tank as well. What rational person would hang on to EA stock in this market with negative sentiment just getting worse, over a four day holiday weekend? Monday should be gruesome...
That all of this could so easily been avoided just by selling the game under some other title, and/or build a BATTLEFIELD game BATTLEFIELD game fans want, applying sound HONEST marketing rules of thumb, in marketing the unique and compelling genre defining BATTLEFIELD features and gameplay to the uninitiated, or under-exposed, and market this atrocity honestly for what ever it's supposed to be: Woke Train Wreck & Walking Simulator For The Gullible.
The good news is EA will get what they deserve: they're going to lose tens of millions, perhaps hundreds depending on how poorly their stock does after this gaff, they'll certainly get nominated for a third Golden Poo Award, and have a better than even chance of winning it again. Sadly everyone that got on the Clown Bus is going to get beat up too: jobs will be lost, money will be lost (like those that own the stock and have no idea how poorly run EA is, or those of us that were dumb enough to get on with-out a refund option. A truly terrible voyage to the bottom of the barrel...
- 4 years ago
Good luck, I was refused a refund for a game that I am unable to play. I stupidly preorder the gold edition to start playing early. I am unable to play a single game without crashing to desktop. EA HELP is unable to provide any assistance to resolve the issue. They have also refused a refund.
- 4 years ago
I just updated the OT post to contain some of the most frequently mentioned missing features and issues pots on Redit, the actual list I compiled was five times larger than what I posted, and even what I posted is apparently too big to fit in a single post (the bug list is ginormous...
The point is a lot that are newly in will enter the game with new player normalcy bias thinking they just can't find the feature that's actually missing because the game has changed, which is just not the case -- the vast majority of Battlefield's core features and design are completely absent this game, it's not you, it's just not there...
Some of this will be important to some Battlefield Fans and not others, but the obvious thing is there's so much wrong with the game it's clearly beyond affordable repair, and most of this will never be fixed, or is even impossible to fix because of design decisions that were made.
The best option, is to send the message loud and clear: cancel your EA subscription if you have one, or return the game if you can -- you'll be able to buy both after Christmas for a small fraction of what they cost now with the current returns and cancelations hemorrhage.
- 4 years ago
What's coming doesn't look good, with less revenue from every source and Developer stories like this one it's very unlikely anything significant will change or be fixed. It's pretty obvious EA hired a bunch of woke tyros that don't understand or care about the franchise, and aren't particularly good at what they do. Add to the mix no revenue to fix anything and it will be a surprise if they can afford to keep servers up.