Adding classes and teamwork
Might be too early to ask but has the addition of classes produced more teamwork in 2042 like people were using for the argument of adding classes? Are people dropping more ammo now? Are they heali...
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@NazT55What's in the game to motivate teamwork? Nothing besides the will to win. People are doing their own thing, and that's totally fine. Longest they're doing something that contributes to the team in some way. I don't think we're ever going to see tight teamwork from a bunch of randoms. You have to group up to do that, but that can definitely kill the game too.
I played in a Clan in BF4 for a couple of weeks and they would just completely pub stomp. It didn't feel right and it was the most boring thing I experienced while playing that game. I'm the type that would switch to the losing side on Metro just for the challenge. That's a lot more fun to me.
The game is designed to be pretty casual with some of, if not, the best FPS mechanics of any current shooter.
BFV had the Squad leader that could gain points by giving orders and your squad for following them. The reward was being able to call in strikes or vehicles. That felt fun and rewarding. I always preferred being the Squad lead in that game.
There's no direct path for a reward in 2042 for good teamwork. So you either play the way that you want or you get some satisfaction from winning and being a good teammate.
I just feel like they need to progress the game and figure out a way to give it persistence. Join a faction and have seasons of trying to conquer a map or something?
@RaginSam While its probably always existed, I feel there's lot more of a cultural influence these days for people to just lone wolf it, especially if they're streaming or making clips for vids, and the top Youtuber crop frequently do the same thing for hits and likes. Teamplay is rarely pushed by those players, and they influence others to do the same. Teamplay has been dropping off pretty steadily since the BF3 days, when BF started appealing to a wider audience.
@Moab23 wrote:@RaginSam While its probably always existed, I feel there's lot more of a cultural influence these days for people to just lone wolf it, especially if they're streaming or making clips for vids, and the top Youtuber crop frequently do the same thing for hits and likes. Teamplay is rarely pushed by those players, and they influence others to do the same. Teamplay has been dropping off pretty steadily since the BF3 days, when BF started appealing to a wider audience.
I'm not sure why things have changed, or if they actually have, but it does feel that way to me. I've changed though too. I've experienced games a certain way and now I'm looking for something new, exciting, and a little innovative. Battlefield has been doing pretty much the same thing now forever. The game play and design have been refined over the years, but fundamentally the basics are the same.
I want Dice, or whoever, to take the engine, game mechanics, and try to make new experiences. Hazard Zone wasn't a terrible idea at all, the timing and implementation probably were a little off though. I would definitely try to play it more now if I could actually get into a round. When trying to learn the game and get better at it, then adding a whole new mode on top of that, it's a little overwhelming. That's why I don't think it was the best decision to release Hazard Zone at launch with the rest of the game.
Influencer's and Content creators are definitely contributing to the overall negativity towards lots of different games. While some of it is definitely valid, they're also looking for controversy, something to grab your attention with click bait, so that they can get clicks on their videos for revenue. Also, like you said, they're playing the game for clips rather than teamwork. At least in games like Battlefield.
While I still definitely try to win and get annoyed when losing a round, I'm also kinda bored of it. I can play optimally to try and win every match, but a lot of times now I don't feel like playing in that very specific way just to win. I play Battlefield because I love the movement mechanics, sound design, art design, gun play, and the ability to play the game in different ways. I'd just like to see more motivation for winning. I'd like to see people on their iPads giving orders, "Commanders", on a pivotal battle to gain territory on a larger tiled map.
What is the point of winning in Battlefield? What's the motive in game design to be a team player?
I started playing BF2042 again today after 12 months away.
If they hadn’t added classes, I wouldn’t even have considered playing 2042 again, regardless of the nice map revamps etc.
Playing as Falck I revived and used health pistol a lot btw.
