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Kuiriel
Seasoned Veteran
3 years ago

Australia - Lower number of players to start or allow AI with XP on portal

Please lower number of players to start a server or allow AI with XP - Australia

In Australia we can't even start regular Conquest mode any more for All Out Warfare. This is from 8pm onwards at least, the times I have tested by waiting in queue for extended periods. The server won't start with less than 32 players.

The only servers up and running will be for the mode of the week, on the far left.

In Australia, I have waited 45 minutes in queue for regular Conquest. The highest we got to was 12, for about a minute. Overall I could see towards 30 unique players at least hopped on and off, but nobody was willing to wait more than 5 minutes. This means even more players were just not bothering because they didn't think it would work. (And when regular games do happen, people don't realize that they can just auto queue after a match ends - this should be signalled better).

Please, lower player count to start and just let us play with bots until people join. Or let us muck about on an empty server like in old Battlefields. That way people have something to do and won't complain as much about how they have limited game time and can't sit around waiting. 

Please, tell management they don't need to kill your own game like this. Tell them that nobody will buy cosmetics or battle passes if they can't play the game, and that plenty of people buy cosmetics when they are just playing against AI - Oblivion Horse Armor proved it, they should know about that at least.

You could just enable normal mastery progression / weekly challenges / ribbons / battlepass progress in Portal servers when AI is enabled, if the AI is set to normal damage and health etc. Let us have FUN with your game. Let us play it, for heavens sake. 

What do you need from us to pressure your higher ups to let you make the choices that you know are necessary for this game to thrive? What do you need your player base to show you for your managers to understand that their choices are forcing us towards other games? I'm begging here.

There is nothing else that scratches the Battlefield itch, but now we're at a point where I have to seriously consider that other game, just because management choices here WON'T LET US PLAY THE GAME.  With some of the changes done and more coming I can see that the current devs are putting love into this game, but they're clearly not getting enough support.

Don't let them do this to your game, devs. There's got to be something that can be done to change the minds of those making these decisions.

Please.

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  • The Battlefield community has been providing feedback to DICE about the matchmaking system since it was first introduced in BFV. All feedback has been carefully listened to, then ignored.

    I believe DICE is using Amazon's FlexMatch matchmaking system. I don't know if DICE has misconfigured the matchmaking settings, but sitting in a matchmaking queue for hours without finding a match is clearly broken.

    Levelcapgaming recently did a video exposing how upper management at Activision is forcing skill based matchmaking on game developers.

    The difference between CoD and Battlefield matchmaking is CoD created their own matchmaking system that actually works and puts you into games fast. While Battlefield's matchmaking uses Amazon FlexMatch which works poorly in comparison and causes players to give up and go play other games.

  • Kuiriel's avatar
    Kuiriel
    Seasoned Veteran
    3 years ago
    @OskooI_007 It hurts to realize this is the end of the franchise. We felt it with BFV and Battlefront 2 support but with the 2042 marketing got all hopped up on the hopium. Someone at DICE has started to fix the bones - there are all fantastic little touches, like their distant screams when falling - but ah, man. Makes an old man nearly cry to see it go this way, like watching the Elder Scrolls come to a stall with Skyrim, or GTA stall at GTA V with microtransactions to buy in game cash.

    Need an indie studio to do something like a Battlefield game with all the vehicles.
  • Kuiriel's avatar
    Kuiriel
    Seasoned Veteran
    3 years ago

    Oof. As a door nail.

    Australia. Friday night game night. Double XP. Right after a dev video blog released.

    Still can't get perfectly normal All Out Warfare Conquest happening.

    PLEASE, COME ON. HEAR US. Lower the number of players required to start a match. ☹️

  • Try Exodus conquest. I'm in Australia, and it seems you can generally find enough players for a 128 conquest match on Tuesday when the new weekly missions drop, after that most days you have to play the 64 player mode or a hardcore server on portal.

    ps. Totally agree with your sentiment about AI xp, I've made a couple post recently because its pretty much impossible to unlock the new guns for BF42, BC2 and BF3 since there aren't any populated servers with those eras without bots.

  • Kuiriel's avatar
    Kuiriel
    Seasoned Veteran
    3 years ago
    @Ga-Knomboe_Boy Aye, that's what I meant. Exodus Conquest is the only mode with players.

    Shame we have to wait til December for the free time where more players might join. Do they not realize that people will join only to be disappointed that they can't get most modes running and then be even more likely to avoid buying?
  • RayD_O1's avatar
    RayD_O1
    Hero
    3 years ago

    @Kuiriel wrote:

    Oof. As a door nail.

    Australia. Friday night game night. Double XP. Right after a dev video blog released.

    Still can't get perfectly normal All Out Warfare Conquest happening.

    PLEASE, COME ON. HEAR US. Lower the number of players required to start a match. ☹️


    I agree with you they should lower the minimum player count requirements to get the rounds started, players need to be able to play the game they paid for.

  • Kuiriel's avatar
    Kuiriel
    Seasoned Veteran
    3 years ago

    @EA_AticI am hoping against hope that you are aware of this and that change is coming. 

    I realise that management is concerned that with AI and xp enabled in Portal, people will find ways to boost through the battlepass faster, and therefore be less inclined to to buy skips through the battlepass. Or they may be concerned that the grind becomes meaningless if people play asynchronous modes against Ai.

    People will not stay to buy battle passes if they cannot play the game however, if they think the game support is being dropped or limited, as happened with bfv, battlefront and now 2042.

    I also realise that the whatever setting must be tied to xp and Ai to limit boosting must be simple. Why not make it related to whether both sides are using the same values? There is a simple checkbox to link these values, couldn't that be used to know when to limit mastery? Or if there are changes to damage values or health values? 

    This would also help alleviate concerns that the attachment grind becomes meaningless if people play asynchronous modes against Ai. 

    Please help us. This game can't be played as intended because of the minimum required player limit. Please let us start servers so more people can join until an active game, instead of irritably leaving the queue - none of my friends have the patience, and they rag on me for still trying each night and wasting their game time. 

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