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CyberDyme
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5 years ago
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Battlefield 2042 Beta was in a rough state - illustrated here...

Coming to terms with my own disappointment when trying hard to love the new BF during 18 hours of beta game testing...

I also understood after trying it on PC that the beta testing on PC was actually giving a 'better' experience than the truly deplorable experience we had on the new gen consoles!  Though it wasn't great at all on PC, it was still markedly better.

Reason why I think we may have had some rather diverted opinions here on the forum also, as we actually did not all experience the same bugs/shortcomings, despite we might even have been in the very same game at the same time!

So here a summary of the majority of the bugs/shortcomings we experienced, all clearly illustrated by video clips of the situations, so also the PC players can see it for themselves...

Battlefield 2042 is in very (very) rough shape - Beta impressions - YouTube

And the question is:

Should we ask EA to delay the go-live with another 3-4 months that it would minimum take for them to truly concentrate and get some of the most severe design flaws fixed or you don't mind/prefer to get it raw and get it next month.  And we will have to suffer probably 2-3 times longer until we might get a reasonable game 9-12 months from now through endless incremental fixes being released?


  • @Trokey66 wrote:
    @CyberDymeCome on, another thread on this!? Why not just add that video to the other one?

    Who are we to ask DICE to delay anything? Non of us know the state of the game, not even YouTubers so how can we say DICE should delay nevermind for how long!

    Be sensible.

    Thx @carsono311 and @ghinavirus ,

    Think we all want and wish this BF2042 to be successful!

    And that is actually why @Trokey66 ,

    I honestly think that the most sensible thing would be for EA to face reality and call off the launch until some time early next year.

    And why is that?

    There are several reasons for this, but among the most severe:

    1. The appalling poor state of the beta.  Across so many foundational aspects of the gameplay, the mechanics, the imagery, the sounds, the hit registry, vehicle dynamics, the aircraft aerodynamics, the server backend and the list goes on and on...  And its not just cosmetics...  So even if it was a software build from few months back, it would still take more than 3 months of more substantial fixing for EA to make that playable for launch date in November.
    2. EA kept claiming that they were well ahead of schedule.  Until we hit the technical playtest.  And all of us in that know what we saw.  And all the stuff that we didn't see.  As EA also pulled the plug on that one... 
    3. Shortly followed by sudden stonewalling and total absence from the long planned Gamescom-launch with all their Battlefield franchise partners on their stands.  Nothing!
    4. Then last minute 1-month delay of the beta.  So tell me now how much we can still trust all we have heard so far from EA?
    5. And when we finally got to the beta, what did we get?  Probably the worst looking and worst-dysfunctional beta of any Battlefield game we have ever had.  Yes, agreed, we did not see the many blue screen of death as we had with BF4, but at least we had good gameplay mechanics and sense of that being a game with huge potential with just some polishing being done to it.  That it not the sensation we are left behind with now after the poor BF2042 beta.

    So we absolutely know what we have seen and experienced in the beta.

    And with all the above in mind, then yes, the most sensible thing would be to delay the launch until sometime in February or March next year.

    Because that is the time the Dev team needs just to fix just the bare basics to make this game playable and enjoyable of some sort for more than just 4-5 game rounds.

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  • ragnarok013's avatar
    ragnarok013
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    5 years ago

    @CyberDyme wrote:

    @Trokey66 wrote:
    @CyberDymeHow about you explain exactly what is wrong with the game (not the beta, the actual game) now and how long each issue will take to fix.

    Then and only then, is any discussion on delay relevant.

    @Trokey66 

    I posted all that in multiple posts on the Beta testing area, but EA has very conveniently now deleted all our access to that.  So there you go...

    Companies that truly care for their customers and have integrity do such software development in full transparency by keeping the known bug list visible and also posting release notes to answer to all bugs being found so far and fixed so far.  How about you ask EA responsible for the game development to do their job instead of asking me to do that for them.


    @CyberDyme technically those posts aren't deleted, they're archived so DICE can gather the relevant feedback from the Beta forum. Hiding inaccessible forums allows us to keep a cleaner forum structure. Remember how we normally consolidated the PC/Xbox/Playstation sub-forums into one general discussion forum after the game's end of support in the old forums? That being said I understand why one would want to reference the Beta forums until launch but this is the standard procedure and has been for years.

  • CyberDyme's avatar
    CyberDyme
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    5 years ago

    @ragnarok013 wrote:

    @CyberDymetechnically those posts aren't deleted, they're archived so DICE can gather the relevant feedback from the Beta forum. Hiding inaccessible forums allows us to keep a cleaner forum structure. Remember how we normally consolidated the PC/Xbox/Playstation sub-forums into one general discussion forum after the game's end of support in the old forums? That being said I understand why one would want to reference the Beta forums until launch but this is the standard procedure and has been for years.


    Indeed @ragnarok013 ,  👍

    Sorry for my poor English, as referred to the deleted access to it, while aware EA keeps it on record.

    EA have done so before, but that doesn't mean that it is great or best practice. 😀

    On the contrary, reported bugs should be kept on record in the open, so all customers can see they are already recognized and reported on.  While now you see players again and again posting on the same, despite already reported to the Dev team.  If anything, at least having the decency to keep the beta forum bug posts accessible (read mode) until next release of the game would be relevant.

    EA need to improve the customer experience end-to-end. 

  • CyberDyme's avatar
    CyberDyme
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    5 years ago

    @Trokey66 wrote:
    @CyberDymeIt is not word games, you are using the Beta as a direct comparison to the game as it stand today and I'm not the one suggesting a delay on the grounds of the Beta, you are!

    The original delay was announced a month or so ago? We know the Beta was older than that so how do you know what state the game is in today? You don't.

    As you rightly say, DICE/EA know and if they think a delay is justified, they (not us) will delay it.

    So this whole 'delay the game' rubbish is nonsense as we are not in any position to justify it.

    How do you know that the beta was more than one month old? 

    You don't.

    But let's now play along those nonsense talks that we played on a 2 or even a 3 months old build.  (older than the technical playtest. 😂)

    And here comes now the endless list of severe bugs we confirmed in the beta.  There was not one single area of the game/mechanics that didnt have bugs on the PS5 platform.  None.  And many of them game breaking. 

    So the total workload to fix all this from the build date (even if 3 months ago) till now for the now delayed launch in 1 month is simply too much for the Dev team to fix those many issues.  That is a fact.  It is simply not realistic.  Reason why I proposed it reasonable to delay it further, to enable that we all will have a successful launch and game experience from the get go.

  • TAYTER-GUN's avatar
    TAYTER-GUN
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    5 years ago

    Actually according to the dice community rep the "beta" was "a few months old".  Though there are claims to the contrary. 

  • SolitaryEclectic's avatar
    SolitaryEclectic
    Legend
    5 years ago

    @Skill4Reel    

    I agree on lack of teamwork and what I do is take over a squad and boot whoever if they don't play as a squad. BF is not a COD game and orders and teamwork is everything. And if they cant play as a squad  I make room for people who will. Edit.. The other big thing I see is lack of communication in voice chat in game when I am not with the regular people I game with. I turn off the typing as I use voice chat only to play and communicate what is around me. Orders placed and constant communication is key to a good BF game. 

  • sk1lld's avatar
    sk1lld
    Legend
    5 years ago

    Guess I was lucky, I didn't see as many issues like the video guy. And I had fun, so can't wait until the launch.

  • GrizzGolf's avatar
    GrizzGolf
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago

    I didnt have a lot of issues with the beta

  • TomaSkTemplar's avatar
    TomaSkTemplar
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    5 years ago

    @Trokey66because they are obliged to tell you, the shareholder, etc., the objective truth, right ?

    It looks like obvious lying to me.

    Turn on your TV, listen to the 'news' and know that they are lying to you. But they are telling the official narrative that 'they' call 'the truth'. (opinion, wish, not fact, or mention fact but completely obliterate the right, needed context to make it upside down)

    Even if those television workers might suspect that what they are spreading are lies, they like their paycheck more.

    If the guy claiming that the build is old is lying and he knows he is doing it, then it might be lying for the money, not for the love of truth.

    I personally say, that he is lying, you know, he did not back up his claims with evidence that we can check. It is as truthful as anonymous sources having secret evidence of XYZ but it is sikrit, so they cant show you. I mean, some people would jump and believe because it must be so sikrit. But these people are '0 IQ'.

    Lies, unless proven with evidence - and objective untampered evidence is not what is in their interest. It is in their interest that public opinion be manipulated in such a way to guarantee their projected profits. Nothing personal. They can lie to you and get away with it.

    Also, some people like to be lied to, they agree, just to avoid the pain of conflict. They must tell the truth. Otherwise it would bring pain, being lied to again, and ... well, again 🙂

    Do such people have a shred of dignity in them ? I wonder.

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