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Read the full update, here. \n \n\n In this update on map design we've outlined several questions for you on ...","body@stringLength":"3050","rawBody":"

We have just posted an update on our current design direction for Battlefield 2042 Maps. Read the full update, here.

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In this update on map design we've outlined several questions for you on where we'd appreciate hearing your feedback. We first encourage you to read the original post in full so you have the proper context. We've also listed all of the questions posed in our blog today, in this thread, with the intent for you to take what's posted there as a thought starter for us to have an open discussion on this first topic around our existing maps.

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Please do feel free to jump in with your thoughts and feedback.

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QUESTIONS FROM THE CORE FEEDBACK POST

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Which maps presently provide a poor opening experience because of the location of the Base Spawn?
Which maps are making it harder to get back into the fight in an all cap scenario?
How do you feel about the current balance between Infantry and Vehicles in Breakthrough?
Have you played 64 player Breakthrough, and do you feel that this is the better way to experience the mode?
On which maps and Flags do you see the most immediate need for more line of sight blockers?
Do you have specific areas on maps that currently stand out to you as lacking cover?
Do you have thoughts on how we can better define traveling paths between objectives to keep combat focused?
Do you see improvement opportunities to make it easier to understand how to get from one objective to the next?

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We invite you to share your thoughts, feelings and responses with us not just on these topics, but anything else you feel is related as well. We’ll of course also be reading your comments across multiple hubs of community such as Discord, Reddit, and Social Media. If you have posted your thoughts on another platform, don't be shy to link to them here so that we've seen them.

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Please represent your thoughts and feelings based on your experience, preferences, and expectations for our future Updates. We ask you to be respectful of those who are taking the time to share their feedback, and to be mindful of our Forum Rules. Our moderation team will be active throughout the thread to help keep the conversation focused on our topic, and those seeking to be disruptive to that goal will be appropriately sanctioned.

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Our thanks to all of you for your participation.

\n\n

Straatford // @Straatford87

Battlefield Community Manager

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We have just posted an update on our current design direction for Battlefield 2042 Maps. Read the full update, here.

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Please do feel free to jump in with your thoughts and feedback.

\n\n

QUESTIONS FROM THE CORE FEEDBACK POST

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Which maps presently provide a poor opening experience because of the location of the Base Spawn?
Which maps are making it harder to get back into the fight in an all cap scenario?
How do you feel about the current balance between Infantry and Vehicles in Breakthrough?
Have you played 64 player Breakthrough, and do you feel that this is the better way to experience the mode?
On which maps and Flags do you see the most immediate need for more line of sight blockers?
Do you have specific areas on maps that currently stand out to you as lacking cover?
Do you have thoughts on how we can better define traveling paths between objectives to keep combat focused?
Do you see improvement opportunities to make it easier to understand how to get from one objective to the next?

\n\n

Our thanks to all of you for your participation.

\n\n

Straatford // @Straatford87

Battlefield Community Manager

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Why not limit Breakthrough to 64 players only or 80 players. Conquest can be kept at 128 player.

128 player on Breakthrough is too much, the map size is fine, objectives can be repositioned in a more linear layout and with the new proposed layouts it may work with 64 player or 80 players.

Why don't you try it with less players than 128 and more players than 64. You could easily set this up for us to try in All out Warfare.

Also some more areas of close combat Metro type area on the maps.

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Why not limit Breakthrough to 64 players only or 80 players. Conquest can be kept at 128 player.

128 player on Breakthrough is too much, the map size is fine, objectives can be repositioned in a more linear layout and with the new proposed layouts it may work with 64 player or 80 players.

Why don't you try it with less players than 128 and more players than 64. You could easily set this up for us to try in All out Warfare.

Also some more areas of close combat Metro type area on the maps.

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Hi everyone,

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Thanks again for providing your feedback around Map Design.

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It's been a week since we posted this feedback request to you. That means we'll now close this thread so we can start compiling all your thoughts and comments. Again, we really appreciate that you've taken the time to have this discussion with us.

\n\n

Once we're done reading through everything, we'll follow-up with what we've learned and next steps.

\n\n

Thank you,

\n\n

//Straatford / @Straatford87

Battlefield Community Manager

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Go play bf4 if you want 64.

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A lot of good suggestions here, but my biggest gripes with the maps is that there are too many vehicles active at any one time. Infantry is just cannon fodder to these vehicles. They need to be toned down which will also help when traversing the map.

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96 players would be better than 128 so have 12 teams on each

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