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Does anyone else wish Squads were bigger than 4 people?
Especially considering the size of teams in this game, finding any friends who couldn't fit into your squad will be a nightmare.
I neve...
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128 isn't divisible by 5, but it is divisible by 4, which make 32 squads of 4, if it was 5 then some players won't have a full squad, the next divisible number is 8, which is a way too large squad
@mathematics654Haha, very good and living up to your name. Good point but I dont think its that critical for a completely perfect division of equal squads. As soon as one player locks a squad, the division problem changes randomly anyways. So let there possibly be one squad that is a little undermanned.
With squads of 5 players per squad, and assuming no one locks a squad, your actual chances of being in the 3 man left over squad are about 2 percent. Or one chance in 50. Worth the risk to have 5 men per squad.
@mathematics654 wrote:128 isn't divisible by 5, but it is divisible by 4, which make 32 squads of 4, if it was 5 then some players won't have a full squad, the next divisible number is 8, which is a way too large squad
Whilst yes this is sound in principle, as we saw in BFV, as soon as there is one undermanned locked squad, that principle goes out the window.
5 man squads is my preferred squad size.
@mathematics654 wrote:128 isn't divisible by 5, but it is divisible by 4, which make 32 squads of 4, if it was 5 then some players won't have a full squad, the next divisible number is 8, which is a way too large squad
Come on @mathematics654 ,
Just put the max player count then to 120, and we could perfectly fine then have our 5-soldiers squads as we want ! ;o)
And its not really any solid excuse anyway for EA not to allow us more members in the squad.
Just think of BF4, where we had 5-man squads also, but 32 players in total on the team side. So yeah 2 players not in a full 5-man squad. And so what?
Many squads weren't even filling up anyway, as some deliberately broke away or sat up their own private squads with a few friends.
Five man I can only hope. Theres always a few lone wolves. I am sometimes
@mathematics654 That is no excuse. In some cases you can get good use out of squads of 2. Does this mean we should have 2 man squads? No. Thats ridiculous.
More than that its ridiculous to assume every server is going to packed with full squads. That's absurd, lone wolf gameplay is also important in minor roles.
The MINIMUM Dice should be bringing from squads should be 6 despite the division. 8 is obviously the ideal.4 man squads are jokes that laugh in the face of everything DICE originally did to make BF the game that became what it is today.
I believe 4-man squads were invented in BFV as Firestorm utilized 4-man squads... So Dice could save 15minutes of dev-time by avoiding to program 5-man squads...
EA took the liberty to screwup mu thread and mixed it with mindless request of 5 players squad BF4 style wich was already a low number for a 32 player team ..
For a 128 player match we NEED AND REQUIRE at least 8 players lobbys to create a 8 player squad divided into 2 fireteam of 4 to prevent abusive squads respawn .
But we need bigger lobby of friends for matchmaking and better structure otherwise we will be stuck in match with KDR farmers who never work for objectives and a squad of 4 or 5 will be meaningless to achieve anything
- @mathematics654 good point
No, this does not have much merit. What if server is not full.
When has that mattered?.. BF4 ran 5 man squads with teams of 32
- @mathematics654 BF4 has 5 man squad. It is not divisible by 32, but it works. Not all squads have to be full.
According to one military units source I looked up, a "Team" consists of 4 people and a "Squad" consists of 10 people. Dice should've changed the individual units to Teams and provided an option for team leaders to "link up" or "partner" with another team to make a Squad to share resources and people. The teams could've stayed at 4 and the squad could be 8 instead of 10. I swear I thought I read some feature rumor was floating around like that in the early days of BF2042 info but I guess it must've been in a parallel universe version of myself and BF lol.
- @mathematics654 I disagree that 8 is too high. It is still 64 vs 64. With the objective to control. Or whatever the objective is, each “side” needs to achieve the said points etc.
That control point needs help, send 4, then meet up later.Bottom line players need a way to get more than 4 friends into matches. Right now its basically impossible.
- @JRiv_Eagle yeah, realistically we had 4 member squad size in bad company 2 in 32 players matches. now we have 128 players, so 8 people still is not an "Unbalanced" number, it's is even probably still not enough, more l ike 16 per squad would be perfect
