Just today I got shuffled to the losing team "based on skill" and we had no less than 5 locked squads of two, a handful of "single squad elite snipers" and those inevitable armor god wannabes hugging the out of bounds to pad thier fragile egos. After about ten minutes of abuse from my previous team, I just left as nearly 50 percent of my team actively avoided the objective (spawn on me then run to the hills for some reason, leaving me alone AND alerting the enemy nearby of my position) *sigh* it gets depressing sometimes...
Hopefully 128 players will help alleviate that happening, or not. Some people just don't care about anything except thier k/d over everything else...
Seems like almost every poster in this thread wants five man squads. That's the squad size we are most used to so why can't we stay with it?
5 man squads give you more close players on your team and should lead to better team play in general. Who wouldn't want an extra support or medic on their squad?
Battlefield REALLY need better squads size , in 128 players match squads of 4 is way to low and does not allow for good and organized group to make a difference . We NEED at least 8 players squads and Lobby so we can have more friends and have better chance to do any difference into a match ..
A solution if Dice want to keep squads respawn manageable with 4 they could do 2 fireteam of 4 insde a squad of 8 and 2 squads of 8 to make a platoon of 16 and 4 platoons per team ... Fireteam have the BF respawn capability inside their own fireteam yet they are part of a squad of 8 that can create lobby and join games toghueter
Also Team Leaders need tools to communicate similar to planetside 2 command chanels where squads leaders can speak to each others and organise better , this structure is deeply lacking
in previous BF games and problem will be exacerbate with the increased players count things are to randoms and there is no real team work happening unless you play private servers with the control over the team composition etc..
So We NEED 8 players Squads and lobby to invite 7 friends or team mates willing to play
We need command chanels for squads leaders and maybe even a platoons structure of 16 players per plattoon so 4 platoon per team of 64
Also We need an option to kick out undesirable peoples from 2 seat vehicules like tanks
a SIMILAR Platoon structure is needed for BF 2042 128 players modes
For a game that is set to move forward with 128 man games I think it is laughable to assume 4 man squads are acceptable. 6 man squads are the roots of battlefield and at the very least should be considered as an option for the future game(s). If anything a game like this should let you put together 8 or 10 man squads for maximum coordination and fun. On top of that a functional commander role that can communicate directly to certain squads and vice versa(Squad leaders to commander). In these larger squads it isn't necessary to be in a full squad, as a matter of fact in previous games there were many scenarios where it was beneficial to have smaller squads, however that was more or less isolated situations like Tank squads, Jet/Chopper/gunship squads, transport squads. At the core of BF this level of teamplay mixed with the all-out action and fast paced war gameplay always made for amazing experiences, and even though my profile may not look it this BF veteran has been very disappointed in the lack of these essential elements for functional gameplay beyond a basic run and gun shooter. More on that these systems demand a level of communication to create amazing, thoughtful games that the past few iterations have routinely fallen short on.
I may seem like a cynic but I am actually a believer. I believe that battlefield can be, and has always been, a game with deep gameplay opportunities as well as basic fun opportunities. So even if an ea forum cant get through to dice totally I still hope there will be opportunities to customize battlefield games to include deeper gameplay, better voip, larger squads, and functional commanders. No everyone has to play that way, but I believe that when you give them the opportunity they will take it and create something special. Just like we all did at the very beginning.
