@Camocheese I’ve been messing around with it since the last missions where we had to, and maybe it’s because I suck but I’ve been finding they don’t throw nearly as far as C4 and the lag between the throw and being able to trigger has made me miss lots of kills while I take a burst to the chest. I recognize people can be better than me and I’m ok with that. My forays into twitch play are in my rear view mirror, the old reflexes ain’t what they used to be. The average player isn’t getting hundreds of kills with C5.