3 years ago
Can We Sort the Balancing?
Like the title says, this game is horrifically unbalanced when it comes to teams. 90% of the time, and that is not an exaggeration, I'm being lumped into a team that barely knows how to function. The...
Here's another issue. Lot of new players because of the free weekend and such, yeah? Okay. So how is it all the new players on my team behave like new players, and we lose badly, yet the enemy team is also full of new, low rank players and yet they're playing like experienced players. In the few match wins I've had today, the ticket difference was about 80 in all three. Enemy teams are consistently winning matches by 200-300 points. They're creaming us. Not only that, every time I have a tank, EVERY single enemy player fires a rocket, Lis rocket, anti-armour grenade, or comes at it with C5. It is beyond absurd how many players rush my vehicles with these weapons. Enemy vehicles, meanwhile, are sauntering around completely unopposed. It really is getting a point of exasperation as to why my team's are so utterly atrocious and the enemy team does everything right.
Dude you need to get help brother, seriously.
You're posts are always about how this game and its players are somehow conspiring against you and only YOU..
Its the most bizarre sorta stuff I've ever seen on here, like Alex Jones levels of conspiracy theory, really.
I might humbly suggest playing another game, perhaps a single player title so "THEY" (whoever you think "THEY" are) can't ruin the experience for you.
@Ironhead841 Here's an idea then. Stop reading it. There is a fundamental issue happening in this game, and everyone seems completely oblivious to it. You don't like what I'm saying? Stop reading it, and stop commenting on it. I get the same crap from the trolls in the game as well. You a troll as well?
Ok skippy, lets just go ahead and flesh this out then.
You and only YOU, are aware of this top-secret cabal that everyone else is "oblivious" to that is conspiring to hack/cheat YOU, assign hit squads to hunt YOU down, to stack teams so that YOU lose matches, is that what you are actually proposing?
Are "they" spying on you through your microwave too? Have they found a way to bypass your tinfoil helmet as well?
Seriously man, get help.
The teams are pretty much identical, the vehicles on each team have an almost identical set of gadgets so if a game is unbalanced its either the map or the people playing.
More often than not I end up being on the winning team, and I find generally the best way to get teamplay happening is actively doing it.
I spawn as Angel with an ammo box, motion sensor, and I'm constantly reviving and supplying people whilst also revealing enemies on the map.
I stick around hot areas to keep large groups of the team alive and supplied so they can push forward. More people start reviving each other and the teamplay starts flourishing.
If the team is getting wrecked I will spawn in a transport that allows other players to spawn - MAV, ECM parachute spawn, Condor, or Hind and then go take a rear base. Generally enough people spawn in so that multiple flags can get taken.
I would say that the previous games had better individual balancing by way of having classes. Right now you can get some very Rambo focused combinations of weapons / gadgets so a lot of people do that and just care about their kill count, but a lot of the time teams with those players end up losing because they aren't playing the objectives.
Furthermore the previous games had incentives and more direction in terms of teamplay - commander mode in BF2 and BF4 allowed squad leaders to place markers / coloured smoke as move to locations so you could co-ordinate your squad. There were also points given for carrying out squad orders in quite a few of the previous games.
However, this is also meant a co-ordinated team could absolutely dominate more than in BF2042.
So my suggestion is if your team is losing, try and be the one that helps them win - don't go for kills, go for far off flags, revives, supplies, spotting, healing, repairs. Maybe others will join in.
@Ga-Knomboe_Boy I'll revive, give ammo, repair, keep gunners on target, pick people up, cover them with smoke/shields/APS, alert them to enemies, SOFLAM. I will do any and all team-oriented actions, and I still get crap for it. I tell people if flags are at risk of being capped. I'll take out vehicles that are sitting around for ages because nobody else will. I'll run 80m to revive a person if I can. It never changes the dynamics of my team. They act like a gathering of individuals while the enemy team acts like something coherent. Low ranks, new starts on either side, but only the enemy team behaves like they know what they are doing. Single digit heli gunners hitting every target in sight, always filling the gunner positions and hitting everything. Mine? They pop off all rounds at empty terrain and then don't fire at targets right in front of them.
I went through a round last night where everyone (and I mean everyone on the enemy team was carrying an anti-armour weapon) as I drove my vehicle from one flag to another. Player after player streaming after me like I was the only thing in the entire match. Enemy tank? Parks right next to our flag and nothing happens to it. No rockets, no Lis rockets, no anti-armour, no Leroy Jenkins with C5. I got shot down three times by EM tanks that inexplicably hit my aircraft at extreme range during erratic movement, despite the cannon on that thing being atrocious for moving targets. Enemy aircraft? Zero opposition.
In what sense are you getting "crap" for it? Do you mean the team doesn't take advantage of your actions, or do you mean people in team chat are actively harassing with you?
If they aren't taking advantage of your actions I'd suggest sticking around the gathering of individuals so they actually push forward, they probably won't notice you jumping in throwing down an ammo kit and reviving if you do all that in 10 seconds and then run off.
If its people on team chat then maybe don't use team chat, I find its pretty much just trolls, people making jokes and sometimes a "gg" at the end. So if you are telling people to attack a flag in chat the response will probably be a troll or a joke.
As said the teamplay in this title isn't as good as previous games, and maybe players in your region are just worse at teamwork.
However its a bit odd to be on the losing side all the time. You can check your profile to see your win loss ratio. Is it heavily one sided?
@Ga-Knomboe_Boy Trolls. Usually come in pairs who just harass you throughout the entire match. My win ratio is higher than my loss, at present, but its literally within a hundred matches now, and the losses are creeping up. At least five losses for each match win.
@Karen0202 Its just frustrating seeing some people play matches and seem to have no problems finding good games (in the same country no less, no idea what server they always connect to), and I'm constantly stuck with these painfully mismatched games.
I'm not the one coming onto this forum and proposing that everybody is cheat/hacking, following me into different matches to hunt me down, stacking the teams against me to make lose.
I don't know if you're actually lying or if your perception of reality is just that tenuous, I'd say it's probably 50/50 chance either way.
As to leaving "your" thread, it's a public forum and if you don't want any pushback on your whack-a-doodle theories and "experiences" don't post them in public?
Either way I am done, good luck gaming with the "lizard people" until the mothership comes back for you.
@Moab23 What is your win%?
@Ironhead841 You haven't added anything to the conversation other than being a troll. Sorry the gaming world isn't as rosy and fair as you seem to believe it is.
@AngrySquid270 At present its 1,316 matches won, and 1,176 lost. The losses have crept up considerably since crossplay was forced on.
Two back to back rounds there highlighted the massive imbalance of this game. Attacking team (mine) won't knock out the helicopter one of our players gave them until there are thirty tickets left. They finally make an effort to capture, and fall asleep defending. Enemy team caps the flag quickly, then the entire team comes back to recapture it. Enemy team not only defends it, but then goes and instantly retakes the other flag. We lose.
Switch to defender. Teams have barely changed. Tell my team to knock out the enemy vehicles. As usual, they don't. Enemy team steamrolls us through the first objective. Enemy players firing perfect headshots through smoke. Move to next zones. Spawn a tank. Roll in. From the get go, every single enemy player I encounter (not an exaggeration, it was EVERY one) is carrying either an M5 recoilless, or a Lis rocket. No matter where I go, I'm having rockets fired at me. Sometimes 5 or 6 at a time are coming my way. Enemy MAV parks up near or on objectives on three occasions. Nobody shoots at it except me. I destroy one. Enemy tank and LATV4 go into the other objective, start capping. Team sits on the outskirts of the flag. Doesn't attack the vehicles. They cap it. Move on. Next flag is gone within a minute. Once again, MAV parks up, nobody attacks it but me. On to the next set. Multiple Condors. Nobody fires anything at them. MAVs and LATV4s. Nobody fires at them. Medics sit metres away. Won't revive. No beacons are used. Enemy team is frantically reviving and using beacons as they attack. Any vehicles we bring are instantly attacked by rockets/missiles. Team won't respond to flag caps. We lose.
Multiple enemy players topping their team are beneath rank 20. High KDRs. Ours? As expected for a newer, low rank player.
This is not an isolated set of events for a match. This happens so regularly it has become a massive point of annoyance. Anytime I use a vehicle it is shot at by every single rocket imaginable, or chased by C5 wielders. Aircraft? Instantly shot at by some dedicated Stinger player. Hacked, fired at by ground guns. Aircraft. AA guns. Wildcat, helos, jets. Enemy aircraft? Fly at their leisure without opposition. Enemy tanks? Operate freely, nothing beyond the odd attempt.
I really, really want to know how these matches are so unbelievably unbalanced, where one team, regardless of its player rankings, performs like a well-oiled, in communication clan and the other plays like a group who have never touched a BF game. How does this happen in back to back matches? In the increasingly rare occasions matches are won, its by less than 200 tickets on a good day. Frequently less than 100. Enemy teams win by over 300 on average. They react quicker, they're more aggressive, and they use everything available to them. They'll have snipers in the same perch throughout the matches who will not be taken out. If you set up some kind of weapon, they instantly take it out. Move to flank them, their spidey-sense kicks in and they're instantly on you before you kill more than one of them.
Really is hitting a point of absurdity.
Again, multiple back to back rounds where enemy teams are winning by hundreds of points, with the odd win that is won by less than 90, often thanks to the clock running out. Allied teams have absolutely zero awareness of enemy flag captures, staunchly refuse to do anything even when told. They don't revive, they barely cap, they don't defend, and they don't destroy vehicles. Every vehicle I had in the last few rounds has been bombarded with rockets within seconds, and every time you roll up and someone is two feet away, they suddenly have explosives on them. If you're on foot, they all have health, ammo, and beacons. Genuinely is like players are swapping up loadouts on the fly without any resupply crates, and even after team mix ups, its still ridiculously unbalanced.
In that round we won and I miracolusly survived in my tank, but not without every enemy again having AT, explosives, or Lis rockets. Yet somehow also all possessing beacons to spawn on after they lost all of their flags. In amongst two allied EBLs, all anti-armour grenades and rockets were focused on me. Multiple times enemies ran at me over great distance to try throwing C5. Why is so much effort put into destroying my vehicle, and not other vehicles?
When has anyone ever accused this game of being balanced?
It's called 2042 and has Tanks, Jets, Rockets, Grenade launchers, and a host of weapons and vehicles.
Yet, the 2 most deadly weapons in the game are the throwing knife and a crossbow. It's like Battlefield Caveman.
Games are seldom close and overall the game is a joke.