And now, for the rest of the story......
Turret should be removed from game in current useless state or modified into a paintball shooting device that splatters enemy soldiers in red paint as they do not have the ability to do damage anymore, let alone kill a player with even half health.
It is YOUR job to kill the player, not the turret. It pointed, shot and ID'd the player. If that is not enough for you to kill them, you should try another FPS
The fact that Boris turret could only mark one player at a time, and the Casper drone can mark a hundred of players a minute leads me to believe the Boris turret was nerfed into oblivion due to it killing new players who have limited movement ability.
Caspers drone is destroyed with 1 shot. Caspers drone is AA's. Caspers drone is marked with a red dot. Casper Drone does not have an infinite amount of ammo.
Plus Ji-Soo Paik can easily highlight a dozen players at once in bright red yet there is no turret to shoot at them, so it would seem a few players got upset because something not human killed them and Dice responded, yet again weird as the Ranger has five times the health and three times the firepower than the pre-nerf Boris turret. And if the Boris turret was so crazy over-powered, why so few Boris players with T1 skins, I've only seen a couple in hundreds of hours of gameplay...
You mean people got upset because you didnt have to play to get your ratings? IMAGINE THAT! Paik still has to kill you. Has to land all her shots before you. Has far less health then your turret did.
That said, I guess the good news is Dice has nerfed both Angel and Boris into oblivion and made them "normal soldiers", so now only eight more to go and we can have our legacy non-specialist Battlefield franchise back. So perhaps all the super nerfing is a grand master plan to give players what they wanted in the first place???
Your beef is you cannot drop AI and have it out perform players. Really!? Why are you even playing if you wish the game to play for you? No AI should be more powerful then the player. No unattended machine should operate on its own and you get credit simply because you dropped or summoned it.
Boris and Angel are still viable. Casper isnt. However, this is the third nerf of a "specialist". Further proof DICE wants VehicleField2042.
@Padding_Ur_StatsIt’s your job to not run around like a headless chicken and maybe work with a team.
If your getting blasted by the turret maybe your the problem, you see dice had this obvious concept that this is a squad based team game so let’s put a very basic scenario down for you…Nice 4 man squad come upon a turret so one member plays a decoy whilst the other player or players blast it because it can’t independently track and shoot 2 different players! This is a very basic tactic my 12 year old uses!
@emerson1975The turrets and the rangers are big mistakes from Dice. The shooting in BF needs to be done by players, not AI.
The turrets were becoming way overused and players became way to stationary when using them. We need people to move around the map not camp everywhere. I know some people say that is "COD-game-play", but in reality BF-games have always worked, by having people moving around the map and capturing flags (or at least running around killing enemies).
And being a 'headless chicken' is impossible to avoid, when turrets spots instantly and through walls and terrain - it is almost impossible the see them before they see you.
And regarding drones, the spotting in this game is totally over the top. Audio spot, spotting grenades, spotting drones, spotting turrets, spotting specialists. The spotting makes playing as infantry much less fun than it needs to be. BF4 had this issue but in 2042 it is really totally out of control. Again why do we need these "passive wallhacks", players need to use their eyes and ears (if the sound worked)...
@cso7777“Shooting should be done by players” says who?
Borris had one ability and that was it lol and it’s easily countered by a simple gun! So once it’s gone he’s basically a bot and it’s obvious he’s going to be stationary because he’s going to make the most of his ability by being within turret circle….is it so hard killing a stationary target?
You are just like every other boris hater ….you want to play this game like some call of duty big tdm game!
Shooting should be done by players” says who?
EA. From the description "Battlefield™ 2042 is a first-person shooter that marks the return to the iconic all-out warfare of the franchise"
Not First AI shooter. The game was specifically designed as a FPS.
Borris had one ability and that was it lol
And he still has it. The turret still spots, still shoots. It just isnt a wrecking machine any longer. That is your job.
and it’s easily countered by a simple gun!
Actually, no again. It took more then 1 magazine and many times, either killed you or injured you to the point where farting in the general direction of you killed you.
So once it’s gone he’s basically a bot and it’s obvious he’s going to be stationary because he’s going to make the most of his ability by being within turret circle….is it so hard killing a stationary target?
You are either being purposely obtuse to make Boris not seem so strong, or you cannot determine how powerful he is. Yes it was not easy killing a turret if it was targeting you. As I said before, I turn the corner and before I can respond, the turret locked on to me )through a wall ) and as soon as I turn the corner I am at half health. Ignoring this and pretending the turret just sits there doing nothing isnt going to bring it back.
You are just like every other boris hater ….you want to play this game like some call of duty big tdm game!
Never played CoD. That being said, Caspers nerfs were far stronger then Boris. I would prefer the nerfs be rolled back to pre 4.1. I would happily give you Boris if I could have Casper back.
You and I are experiencing the beginning of VehicleField2042
@emerson1975If your getting blasted by the turret maybe your the problem,
Because running around a corner is a problem? Applying this statement to other specialist nerfs, If you're in a tank and you're blown up by a drone with C5, maybe you're the problem. After all, all you had to do was move your tank.
you see dice had this obvious concept that this is a squad based team game so let’s put a very basic scenario down for you…
Not all of us have the convenience of having a group that cooperate. You're presumption that this is the state of the game is a bit obtuse since there are many threads complaining that pugs do not work as a team.
Nice 4 man squad come upon a turret so one member plays a decoy whilst the other player or players blast it because it can’t independently track and shoot 2 different players! This is a very basic tactic my 12 year old uses!
Ah the elementary simile implying I am not bright. Let me add some facts. I am not always preceded by a player as your 12 y/o has you running in front of him running interference. That being said, no AI should have the full outright kill ability. That is your 12 y/o's job, not the turret. If your 12 y/o cannot do that, then maybe you should wait until he can play on that level. Nerfing AI to force PLAYERS to get their kills is the right move. The game isnt for AI, it is for players.
@emerson1975 wrote:@Padding_Ur_StatsIt’s your job to not run around like a headless chicken and maybe work with a team.
If your getting blasted by the turret maybe your the problem, you see dice had this obvious concept that this is a squad based team game so let’s put a very basic scenario down for you…Nice 4 man squad come upon a turret so one member plays a decoy whilst the other player or players blast it because it can’t independently track and shoot 2 different players! This is a very basic tactic my 12 year old uses!
i think borris should be further nerfed. the automatic operation should be removed. it should be a gun emplacement that the user has to enter similar to a machine gun
@PsubondEA could add a Boris "Rampart" (APEX) with the hand held chain gun that can be hip fired or turret ground mounted. Although nobody ground mounts the chain gun in one location in Apex as hip fire is kind of OP, yet there are a lot of common specialist between APEX and BF 2042 such as the Mackay "Pathfinder", so why not...ha
