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doubleome
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago

Did suppression actually make for a better experience?

Hear me out, on alpha release BF3 the suppression was way over the top and wasn't a fan at all, but imo at the later stages of the game and comparing to the experience in 2042 I kinda miss it actuall...
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UP_LordPlumber
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@doubleome Suppression takes out a huge chunk of the skill out of "Shooting" part of the "Shooter" game.

One player must not be able to alter the accuracy/recoil/vision of another player simply by shooting first.

This encourages 2 things
1 Camping. Because knowing you shoot first gives you HUGE advantage, you will be camping even more than now. BF5 MMG camping meta had it on full display. The amount of campers in dark corners with MG42s 200 round belts was absolutely insane. This was too easy to pull off, so average jimmies did just that.


2 Spray and pray gunplay, aka lowering the need for a better accuracy than another player. In BF5/2042 and in BF4 after multiple reworks of a suppression system, you MUST have good aim in order to compete with others. There is no way around it. You're either confidant in your aim, or you get mowed down by someone who is better than you are.
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doubleome
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago

True but mostly referring to the suppression in BF3, in BF1 it was mostly confusing and imo not necessary cuz the old weapons fired like old weapons plus low ammo capacities

In BF3 suppression didn’t lead to camping and when it did the higher TTD allowed to get cover and figure a way to kill the camper. BFV and BF2042 people don’t even need to camp in order to produce and seemingly “unfair” engagement.

I agree a well balanced recoil, spread, accuracy system is superior and leaning towards to slow pace gameplay but I have little hope of ever seeing that happen again

For me Battlefield 3 was the last Battlefield you actual battled other players, everything after is just battling the game itself.

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    UP_LordPlumber
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @doubleomeBF3's "High" TTD was due to an awfully low server tickrate. It was something like 10Hz or 15Hz compared to 45Hz in 2042 and 60Hz+ in BF4/5

    So half of your shots just didn't register properly.

    BF3 has exact same guns, mostly the exact same damage numbers.  3-4 shots kill up close, 5-7 shots at a distance. 

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      doubleome
      Seasoned Ace
      2 years ago

      @UP_LordPlumberBut we begged Dice for better tickrate but it didn’t improve anything imo made it worse or something else made it worse.

      Bf3 had 60hz servers at one point i am pretty sure didnt it?

      2042 experience is more consistent compared to bf3 for sure but consistently bad isn’t something they should strife for lol

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