Does the devs really read our topics?

@EA_Atic  @So EA knows abouth the mess caused by MM and how unhappy the community is about it but flat out refuses to comment on it? 

Just trying to understand, you are saying that there is willful and deliberate avoidance of sharing any insight on the topic from EA to the community?

@EA_AticI am glad the team is aware. As a long-time Battlefield veteran who has over 5K hours in BF titles, I can tell you this is the single most frustrating component of BF2042. It literally makes me not play. I dread having to click a tile and hope I get a decent map, not knowing what my ping will be, if the match is already halfway done. etc. I am joining the game blind. Then you have to do that over and over after every match, sometimes you end the game in a full server/instance, then are waiting for players for 3-4 minutes the next. Like what is going on? If you end with a full server, can't all those players just stay together, scramble teams, not squads, and backfill from new players joining?

There is no such thing as a map rotation. That was one of the best things, knowing the server you are on has the perfect map rotation where you can stay on for hours. I literally play for the weeklies and maybe the daily bonus and call it a day.  That is mainly due to 2 things, lack of a Server Browser/Persistent Servers and the TTK vs TTD issue low ping players are experiencing.

The TTK / TTD issues are the worst, but I'd be ok with clicking blind if after I "get what it get" there is a decent rotation and not the same 3-4 maps over and over and playing the same map 2 - 3 times in a row. That along with keeping the same team/server the whole time, etc. I don't need a server browser IF the current system worked correctly, but it'd be nice to have.

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@Adamonic wrote:
@Echo6Echothat's the thing, we are in single match instances. There are no persistent servers which means no map rotations.

VMs spin up with a randomized map and players every time.

Server Browser and persistent servers go hand in hand.

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And their map selection rng sucks.  If/when they steal 24/7 breakthrough again I'll start tracking the maps i get so we have hard numbers

But i digress, EA refusing to acknowlegde the problem and give a response as to if server browser/persistent servers are even being considered is a giant middle finger to the community

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@EA_Atic wrote:
It means we don't have anything to share at the moment. @Psubond,

@Adamonic, persistent servers do work in Portal including featured mode. Its how I run my FNB at the moment without hosting a server. and in theory if no one leaves those servers its always there. (but I get what you are asking for).

/Atic

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Oh I know, the Portal method is the way to go, just in AOW. 

Dealing with MM/RNG every time you play one round is ridiculous and unnecessary. Leave that for "Quick Match".

@Psubondthere are GUI things that would have to be worked as well. The problem is the skeleton crew can only work on so many things at a time.

Deployment timelines are locked, so they have to take care of the deployment stuff first, then bug fixes and balancing tweaks. There is no time left for modification of the GUI and menus to accommodate a Server Browser in AOW, then actually create one (or moving AOW into Portal), then make all the necessary backend stuff to make it work.

Adding a Server Browser is a several month effort in parallel with ongoing game support. If they haven't already started on one, we won't see one before S4 and by then there won't be any players left. 

@Psubond I'm not sure how putting the servers in portal fixes the real issue of the maps not rotating correctly. Please explain...

@EA_Atic The issue isn't that you have nothing to say and I've said this in several other threads in here. The issue is there is NO consistent form or communication. There isn't one place to go where there is a list of issues, a list of enhancement requests, etc. that is updated on any consistent basis. If there was a board in here with a list of known bugs, take ADS for example, with an update as to where things stand with updates as things come along, that'd go a long way. I mean we get dribs and drabs from 4 DIFFEERENT platforms. And when there is info, it's in three different threads. A recent update about weapons balance for instance. There are 3 separate threads on Reddit about three different weapons. Why not a single "weapons balance" post here that updates it. No one can possibly keep up with where their favorite topic/gripe/complaint is since there is no organization. 

Not taking this out on you personally, but hopefully you can affect change

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@Echo6Echo wrote:

@Psubond I'm not sure how putting the servers in portal fixes the real issue of the maps not rotating correctly. Please explain...

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Portal has persistent servers and ability to do a rotation

AND a server browser

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@Psubond wrote:

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@Echo6Echo wrote:

@Psubond I'm not sure how putting the servers in portal fixes the real issue of the maps not rotating correctly. Please explain...

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Portal has persistent servers and ability to do a rotation

AND a server browser

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I'm not sure that fixes the server rotation issue, but it might be a start. 

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@Psubond wrote:
@Echo6EchoHow would it not if it has built in rotation on persistent servers( like it does now)? Have you played in portal?

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Yes and it's part of it, however, even IF the servers are shutting down and restarting every match in AoW, how would it be possible to NOT get all of the maps over let's say 25 plays or even 50? What it's telling me is that AoW isn't setup to put the maps in at all, otherwise you wouldn't play the same 3 all the time. Not saying you're wrong the issue is just deeper...

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@Echo6Echo wrote:

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@Psubond wrote:
@Echo6EchoHow would it not if it has built in rotation on persistent servers( like it does now)? Have you played in portal?

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Yes and it's part of it, however, even IF the servers are shutting down and restarting every match in AoW, how would it be possible to NOT get all of the maps over let's say 25 plays or even 50? What it's telling me is that AoW isn't setup to put the maps in at all, otherwise you wouldn't play the same 3 all the time. Not saying you're wrong the issue is just deeper...

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You are not listening to what i am saying.  Portal servers do not shut down after every match.  If i can make an exact clone of a aow server with all maps in a rotation in portal the devs can too.  If you dont believe me go play with the portal editor and you can do it

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@Echo6Echo wrote:

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@Psubond wrote:
@Echo6EchoHow would it not if it has built in rotation on persistent servers( like it does now)? Have you played in portal?

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Yes and it's part of it, however, even IF the servers are shutting down and restarting every match in AoW, how would it be possible to NOT get all of the maps over let's say 25 plays or even 50? What it's telling me is that AoW isn't setup to put the maps in at all, otherwise you wouldn't play the same 3 all the time. Not saying you're wrong the issue is just deeper...

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The same 3 map problem is an rng problem coupled with lack of persistent servers in aow MM

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@Adamonic wrote:
@EA_Atic do CM's have access to Jira, Bitbucket, and Confluence?

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Without going into specifics about which tools we use.. yes, we do have access to everything. We are part of the development team.

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@Psubond wrote:

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@Echo6Echo wrote:

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@Psubond wrote:
@Echo6EchoHow would it not if it has built in rotation on persistent servers( like it does now)? Have you played in portal?

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Yes and it's part of it, however, even IF the servers are shutting down and restarting every match in AoW, how would it be possible to NOT get all of the maps over let's say 25 plays or even 50? What it's telling me is that AoW isn't setup to put the maps in at all, otherwise you wouldn't play the same 3 all the time. Not saying you're wrong the issue is just deeper...

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You are not listening to what i am saying.  Portal servers do not shut down after every match.  If i can make an exact clone of a aow server with all maps in a rotation in portal the devs can too.  If you dont believe me go play with the portal editor and you can do it

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It's not that I'm not listening partner, I hear you and I've seen it. What I'm saying is, AoW is where I LIKE to play and it's broken. Why can that not be fixed as well?

Lets use the dedicated topics for your questions. We are seeing a lot of topic around the forums that is focused on one item and gets hijacked for different conversations.

Not everything is linked to everything. Lets keep it to the topics that we have

• Server browser. 
• MM issues. (this is not server browser conversations) 
• Helicopter Feedback.
• Seasons 1 badge questions
• Game balance feedback.
• BSV Feedback.
• Which Tier 1 items are you working on?

And many many more threads on the forum. Have a look around. 🙂 

/Atic 

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@EA_Atic wrote:

Lets use the dedicated topics for your questions. We are seeing a lot of topic around the forums that is focused on one item and gets hijacked for different conversations.

Not everything is linked to everything. Lets keep it to the topics that we have

• Server browser. 
• MM issues. (this is not server browser conversations) 
• Helicopter Feedback.
• Seasons 1 badge questions
• Game balance feedback.
• BSV Feedback.
• Which Tier 1 items are you working on?

And many many more threads on the forum. Have a look around. 🙂 

/Atic 

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Thank you for this...I know that you can't make all of the decisions where to put things, and how all of this is done, but this shows you at least care. Thanks for being here an responding 🙂