EA Abandoning BF 2042
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@OskooI_007 wrote:
It's true, not a single mention of Battlefield in EA's 2023 Q1 earnings call transcript.
https://ir.ea.com/financial-information/quarterly-results/default.aspx
@OskooI_007 when I saw Flakfires's recent vid mentioning this after living through Battlefield V...
While not the most positive comparison given the quality of support...SWTOR hasn't been mentioned on earnings calls for years but still gets updates. They've slowed to a crawl now with an underwhelming and mixed "expansion" (it was super small, more lots of systems/UI updates) early this year and another update coming soon.
So just worth noting for folks that don't listen to earnings calls/follow industry business news, not being mentioned on an earnings call is definitely not a GOOD thing, but it's also not a "abandoning the game" thing.
Folks really need to stop listening to their first earnings call ever and thinking they're Michael Pachter, though the hot-takes are about as good as Pachter's paid "analysis" so I guess it's fitting. But real, I've seen few content creators who even understand and regularly follow earnings calls outside of when they're looking to dunk on a game like BF2042 or something.
- "We have Respawn, who is just best in class in the business for shooters."
I feel like this line has been overlooked here and really says a lot about how EA is viewing Dice. I really wouldn't be surprised if EA was abandoning Dice...
@Albake21z wrote:
"We have Respawn, who is just best in class in the business for shooters."
I feel like this line has been overlooked here and really says a lot about how EA is viewing Dice. I really wouldn't be surprised if EA was abandoning Dice...They're not, stop panicking. They're talking to investors, which means exaggerating how good things are whenever they can and ignoring negative things at the same time.
Gamers need to stop thinking they're the audience EA executive are speaking to with quarterly reports. We're not. They're speaking to their actual audience for those calls: Big-stake investors and analysts.
And arguably, right now Respawn is at least one of the best in the business when it comes to shooters (and clearly more with the success of their Star Wars game). But that doesn't mean DICE is gonna be killed by any stretch. Stop reading too much into stuff.
- @edgecrusherO0 I'm a shareholder..... but sure I get your point.
I'm obviously just speculating here. I said I wouldn't be surprised, not that I truly believe it will happen.
@edgecrusherO0 wrote:
While not the most positive comparison given the quality of support...SWTOR hasn't been mentioned on earnings calls for years but still gets updates. They've slowed to a crawl now with an underwhelming and mixed "expansion" (it was super small, more lots of systems/UI updates) early this year and another update coming soon.
So just worth noting for folks that don't listen to earnings calls/follow industry business news, not being mentioned on an earnings call is definitely not a GOOD thing, but it's also not a "abandoning the game" thing.
Folks really need to stop listening to their first earnings call ever and thinking they're Michael Pachter, though the hot-takes are about as good as Pachter's paid "analysis" so I guess it's fitting. But real, I've seen few content creators who even understand and regularly follow earnings calls outside of when they're looking to dunk on a game like BF2042 or something.
@edgecrusherO0 as a former 7 year SWTOR progression raider SWTOR has been in dire straights since 2019 with similar conflicts of vision that Battlefield now has ramrodding nonsensical deisgn decisions that the end game community doesn't want driving players away like DICE been doing recently. So if both are not being mentioned in earnings calls I'm not sure that's a particularly reassuring comparison given the recent Bioware and DICE developer exoduses.
- @ragnarok013 I'm not saying it's GOOD support...it's definitely dwindled over time. Just pointing out that it's at least still getting SOME support, even if it's still underwhelming. I haven't played SWTOR in a while (not since KotFE/ET) and I know it's been increasingly rough, just trying to counter the "no mention = dead game" stuff from some folks.
Are DICE/BW still seeing a ton of folks leaving? I haven't kept up but I thought the "mass exoduses" already happened and the studios were starting to stabilize with a lot more new folks being brought on board.
@edgecrusherO0 wrote:
@ragnarok013 I'm not saying it's GOOD support...it's definitely dwindled over time. Just pointing out that it's at least still getting SOME support, even if it's still underwhelming. I haven't played SWTOR in a while (not since KotFE/ET) and I know it's been increasingly rough, just trying to counter the "no mention = dead game" stuff from some folks.
Are DICE/BW still seeing a ton of folks leaving? I haven't kept up but I thought the "mass exoduses" already happened and the studios were starting to stabilize with a lot more new folks being brought on board.@edgecrusherO0 we could make the same comparison with 2042 right now, one map per quarter isn't good support (especially compared with the Premium system) but it's still support but it really shows the game is dead and DICE is just phoning in the support so they can tell investors it's a live game. We all expect content to be drip fed under a live service but this is Chinese Water Torture levels of dripping.
Recent Bioware departures have been in the news both recently and over the past year affecting SWTOR, Dragon Age, and even Mass Effect. It's concerning to say the lease given Anthem and ME:A's reception a few years ago.
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