G-84 TGM urgently needs to be updated
it's completely useless. I hit right in front of the sniper, but it has no effect. it's a missile, it shouldn't have to hit with pinpoint accuracy like a sniper. it's also very slow, it can't catch t...
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@murdocklawless splash damage would be nice but it was nerfed because people were using it on infantry. it is a tv guided missile, you should be able to hit the target (spot them before you fire and it makes it a lot easier, aim just below the red dot)
@Psubond wrote:
@murdocklawlesssplash damage would be nice but it was nerfed because people were using it on infantry.
tanks are using their cannons on infantry? anti-aircraft vehicles are using their guns on infantry?
- @murdocklawless should it (TGM) have splash damage? yes. does it? no. aim accordingly.
@murdocklawlessSo you want to have a portable, TV guided tank cannon with you? Sounds balanced
And btw, tank cannons are designed to kill infantry. And I don't see Wildcats using their dual 30mms on infantry. This is not BF4 anymore
Lis is hands down one of the best specialist because of her gadget.
It's an effective AA launcher since it only requires a single hit on most air vehicles besides the transport.
And the buffs it received for it's turn speed, fuel and overall speed allows you take multiple tries with a single rocket if you miss that cheeky chopper.
It's fine as a finisher against ground targets, especially now that they added APS for MBTs, using it against infantry is mostly a skill thing, you need dead ok hits, not meters away
- @KarshMarsh She's magnificent, fair and balanced.
"It's an effective AA launcher since it only requires a single hit on most air vehicles besides the transport." Truer words have never been spoken.
And she didn't receive any buffs, simply fixes that were two seasons overdue. - @UNL1M1T3D_P0W3R "Fair" especially when missile flies 10 meters away from you yet still hits nonetheless
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5VqM-duezUc&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE&t=155 - @UP_LordPlumber It's a feature. By 2042, guided rockets allow explosion molecules to be effective even without touching the target! Mission accomplished.
@Psubond wrote:
@murdocklawlessshould it (TGM) have splash damage? yes. does it? no. aim accordingly.g-84 is a explosive missile, not a bullet.
@UP_LordPlumber wrote:
@UNL1M1T3D_P0W3R"Fair" especially when missile flies 10 meters away from you yet still hits nonetheless
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5VqM-duezUc&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE&t=155It's been well documented that this goes both ways.
G-84 can fly right through a target. Even momentarily blanking the screen.
Certainly feels unfair, certainly not ideal, but if it affects both sides I don't know either group can claim this as a point of 'unfairness'.
@UP_LordPlumber wrote:@murdocklawlessSo you want to have a portable, TV guided tank cannon with you? Sounds balanced
And btw, tank cannons are designed to kill infantry. And I don't see Wildcats using their dual 30mms on infantry. This is not BF4 anymore
no, If I target infantry with the g-84, I want it to be effective because the weapons of all the vehicles in the game are lethal against infantry but g-84 not.
@murdocklawless wrote:
@UP_LordPlumber wrote:@murdocklawlessSo you want to have a portable, TV guided tank cannon with you? Sounds balanced
And btw, tank cannons are designed to kill infantry. And I don't see Wildcats using their dual 30mms on infantry. This is not BF4 anymore
no, If I target infantry with the g-84, I want it to be effective because the weapons of all the vehicles in the game are lethal against infantry but g-84 not.
You have a gun, just shoot them
@Psubond wrote:
@murdocklawless wrote:
@UP_LordPlumber wrote:@murdocklawlessSo you want to have a portable, TV guided tank cannon with you? Sounds balanced
And btw, tank cannons are designed to kill infantry. And I don't see Wildcats using their dual 30mms on infantry. This is not BF4 anymore
no, If I target infantry with the g-84, I want it to be effective because the weapons of all the vehicles in the game are lethal against infantry but g-84 not.
You have a gun, just shoot them
it's about balance. if vehicles point their guns like cannons to me and kill me, this means they can use their abilities completely. I just want to use g-84 ability completely too.
- @murdocklawless It isnt about balance. You want to hide behind a rock in your spawn and zap snipers. If it wasnt then you wouldnt use that missile because you are vulnerable when using it and wouldnt survive on the front lines.
Get mad if you want, but if you want to use it on infantry you need to learn how to aim it to actually hit the player you are shooting at. It really isnt that hard to hit a player with it especially now - @murdocklawless Don't get me wrong, nailing snipers with it is good fun, just takes a bit of practice
- @AngrySquid270 But it's pretty unfair. One waits only 5 seconds.
@UNL1M1T3D_P0W3R wrote:
@UP_LordPlumberIt's a feature. By 2042, guided rockets allow explosion molecules to be effective even without touching the target! Mission accomplished.You now have my interest.
Please tell me what an explosion molecule is 🤣
@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:
@AngrySquid270But it's pretty unfair. One waits only 5 seconds.Come on now. I'm sure we each have 10,000+ hours playing Battlefield - do you really need me to list all the pros/* of vehicles vs infantry?
@AngrySquid270Ofc not, but its sweatier to dodge that missile than hitting with one. Also i get much higher penalty/punishment based on a visual lie. There is the difference.
@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:@AngrySquid270Ofc not, but its sweatier to dodge that missile than hitting with one. Also i get much higher penalty/punishment based on a visual lie. There is the difference.
I dont think the visual appearance of the missile missing yet it hits is a missile problem (happens the other way too, from attacker perspective it appears that the missile hits but just flys through helo with no detonation). That appears to be a net code/hit box issue.
It happens a lot for infantry too (getting shot around corners, unloading a mag into someone etc)
Pretty sure those things are net code/lag
- @Psubond Ofc its problem. Net code is to blame. It's same issue dying behind corner but its just one flies 10m by and still hits. Based on that information you calculate your movement and counter measures. Problem is, when they boosted velocity, it goes even further off.
- @Man_iLoveFishing and the problem gets even bigger when you can't know from game to game if you need to lead the target , aim at the target or trail the target. there's only one hit box for the helo, but how does one know where to aim with the netcode. before adjusting the missile they need to sort their netcode because it is super inconsistent from game to game in determining where one needs to aim to hit the helo or for the helo pilots how to jink to evade. the server thinks the helo is in one place, the local client thinks it's somewhere else and the delta isn't consistent.
tl;dr it's a mess Best part is, when Liz on my screen misses and suddenly i get shot, i get that t-bag that actually sometimes makes my teeth grind. Feels stupid.
- @Man_iLoveFishing I think we can all agree that this is one of those things that should not even exist in the game.
Same as drum mags and other "impossible to balance gadgets", especially when they're affected by the netcode
@UP_LordPlumber wrote:
@Man_iLoveFishingI think we can all agree that this is one of those things that should not even exist in the game.
Same as drum mags and other "impossible to balance gadgets", especially when they're affected by the netcodeI wouldnt go so far as to say it shouldnt be im game
- @murdocklawless
"It's about balance. if vehicles point their guns like cannons to me and kill me, this means they can use their abilities completely. I just want to use g-84 ability completely too."
You want to kill tanks with 2 missiles and you talk about balance.
This here folks is the player who wants to press X to delete vehicles.
I notice reddit sub is full of them on the tracer dart nerf thread.
COD player mindset on full display.
