G84 TGM (Lis' guided missile) should NOT 1-shot destroy light air vehicles

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@Metal_Daryl97 wrote:

 now imagine how effective multiple Lis mains can be 

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Already imagined that.

A single Lis probably has a 10% hit rate vs an experienced pilot.

In a 2HK world where you have 2 Lis working together playing anti-air you'd only have a 1% kill rate.

For every 100 strafing runs an attack heli does they'd get Lizzed once.  Seems like a pretty poor return on investment for 2 people playing a dedicated anti-air role.

You're forgetting about all the other anti-air in the game (for instance, *cough* wildcat *cough*) 

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@Metal_Daryl97 wrote:

@Faydakin1983

Except that I don't farm infantry, I'm almost always dealing with other vehicles (and I mostly play as infantry)

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So youre complaining because your jet gets destroyed by a LGM that makes it even worse. Killing a jet with a LGM is hard all you have to do is put afterburners on and boom missile can’t keep pace. Seriously deal with it I’m sure tank drivers are bored of your strafing runs ruining their day but their not on here complaining for jets to be nerfed.

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@Metal_Daryl97 wrote:

You're forgetting about all the other anti-air in the game (for instance, *cough* wildcat *cough*) 

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If you are being focus fired by an anti-air vehicle plus multiple anti-air infantry you should be dead 99 out of 100 engagements. That shouldn't be a fair fight.  That shouldn't be set as the 'balance' scenario.

No, as I've said multiple times now, the TGMs are far too effective against light air vehicles EXCEPT for the nightbird, which includes the stealth Chopper, apache, hokum and jets.

I've recently started using the apache and hokum more and have to say that the lissile is definitely busted against them - one hit and you instantly become an ez target for any thing. The stealth Chopper has a large hit box and I'd say it's an easy target for the wildcat, other choppers and jets - the TGM also being insanely effective against it doesn't make any sense 

As a pro jet pilot, the TGMs are mostly an issue when I'm flying low and busy dealing with other vehicles - the TGMs (usually multiple of them launched simultaneously) can fairly easily hit an unsuspecting jet pilot (because jets have to slow down when aiming) or at least force the jet to retreat, which is far too disruptive. Even worse, the area of effect seems to be busted - seems like you don't even need to hit the jet to get a kill

Wait for the slo-mo part: https://youtu.be/3SROXqmulU8 

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@Metal_Daryl97 wrote:

Recoiless m5 one-shot destroying light aircraft makes perfect sense, but the TGM one-shotting air vehicles, especially after the recent buff, doesn't make any sense (only exception imo would be nightbirds because of their agility and small hit box). 

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Stop Hovering.  

@Metal_Daryl97I dont think a nightbird should dominate half of the enemy team. Yet here we are, with experienced nightbird pilots dominating half of the enemy team with their godlike absurd physics and accurate miniguns. And you want to take away the OHK ability of Liz against them? Like the only launcher infantry have access to in order to counter it which requires practice time? I am not mentioning the AA launcher and AT launcher on purpose, because they're not effective against those pilots. AA launcher means they spit out flares while finishing up 3-4 infantry during their flare uptime before shortly covering behind terrain or an object. To come back moments later to do it all again. M5 wont hit such a small target that nimble, believe me, I've tried countless of times.

And still you want to nerf the OHK ability of Liz.

K then.

@Wargame_Enj0yer

No, I actually suggested that lis TGMs should only be able to one shot NIGHTBIRDS because it has a tiny hit box and is extremely agile 

@Faydakin1983

I've just checked - as I suspected, the TGM is actually faster than jets (~550 km/h vs 250-450 km/h; jets can get as slow as ~250 km/H while engaging other vehicles). It's actually very easy to take out a jet flying low with TGMs if the pilot is busy dealing with other vehicles - huge hit box + odd hit detection/large area of effect + slower speed/slow turns

Funny how in the game as soon as a jet hit afterburner it speeds away from your boosted missile. I’ve had countless jets just burn away. An I wouldn’t trust any stats from dice on how things work in this game. Cause how they are described as working and how they actually work in game are two vastly different things.