I'm so tired of helicopters and air vehicles dominating. What is your deal Dice? Why do you have such a fetish for air vehicles dominating? Even Jets fly like Helicopters in this game! It's ridiculous. The Air superiority should be SECONDARY game play to Infantry. If you can't figure that out, that's pathetic.Why can an Attack Heli charge straight towards a Wildcat and completely out gun it? How the F is that balanced?! Jet's can just slowly do strafes, like a helicopter, and just hit you over and over, then turn around, and do it again. Why do flares regenerate sooner for air vehicle then ground vehicles?!I need a break from this Trash AGAIN. There's no way I'm spending a dime on the next game. Completely incompetent balancing and refusal of fixing and of the bugs that have persisted from release. Add new content without fixing the old.

@cyromilia wrote:I basically fly the apache and hokum only in this game and I have more than 1000 hrs in both together.I must disagree for the most part on this, not totally but mostly.first of all the attack heli comes with 2 players a pilot and a gunner, only in this combination the attack heli is really strongthe wildcat comes also with 3 slots, but its only mostly one guy inside campin with the wildcat. if 2 players play the wildcat with a flak pod on the other seat it is very powerful vs attack helis basically vs every aircraft.secondly wildcat players are mostly not good players, they dont use their environment to cover at all. they dont use Irish APS, nor do they use smoke to cloud themelves intelligently. they are just like sitting ducks. they dont focus on the aircraft, they ignore the fact that the aircraft is up again and come completely unprepared. they dont look at the map where the heli is while they spawn it. simply speaking again the genuine wildcat players dont play cleverI have encountered good wildcat players, who were definetely a threat to attack helis, they would call it on the field instead spawning it in base. they would move and smoke and shoot so that they were hard to hit. they would not give away their position. they would surprise the aircraft. they would play the wildcat in a squad with flak pod and melt aircraft. basically they would play clever. there are more things which they would do, which Im not gonna share because,it is definetely a skill issueand you are just too lazy to practice good wildcat playing and also you lack the social skills to find other players to team up with you to play the wildcat effectively you just come here to let your frustration out. you see none of u in this post here offer tactics how to do better, all u do is cry for buffs or nerfs. even if they buff the cat, players like you would still get farmed, simply bc and again you dont want to practice, you want it the easy way and when u read my reply u feel offended instead of inspired. I dont mean to be mean and if you take my reply the wrong way. like emotionally, its ur bad experiences u made in ur life that make u understand this as an attack on you, if you do so you deserve to get farmedI think you're a bit delusional with this whole skill thing. The Wildcat isn't a high skill ceiling vehicle. I'm not sure what you're going on about. It's not that deep or complicated. I do everything right with it, but it's not an effective tool. Simple as that. I was a huge Tank nerd for years in BF games, and I understand positioning and timing very well. That's probably my strongest ability in the BF series.The best players aren't gunners for attack Heli's LMAO. How did you get to that conclusion? It's one task they have to be good at, and that's simply aiming. I can go ham too when I have a decent pilot. It's not hard, I don't have robot like aim, but I'm pretty damn decent. It's not that difficult. The problem isn't skill at all, it's the poor balancing and giving the tools for some average players to completely destroy a lobby.It's ironic that you bet we don't fly, but then you admitted that you don't really play infantry. There's only a couple spots open for Heli's, so most people spend the majority of their time on the ground as infantry. You're saying that you don't have much experience on the other end, and you don't play like a normal BF player. You wait in que just to fly the a Heli.Also, the gunners and people that usually live in the Helicopters in this game are usually slightly above to just average infantry players. I've seen maybe one exception in my personal experience.

It’s ironic, because nobody cries harder than pilots do, whenever a vehicle or gadget gets buffed to a degree where it becomes a realistic threat to them.Yet here they are, blaming infantry for crying and for lacking game skill - and social skill too, even…!

@UP_HawxxeyeA Wildcat should totally destroy anything close to them. I think the damage they do across the map is already really minimal, and there's usually so much cover that air vehicles just ignore you anyways. I had an attack heli fly straight towards me and it just outright killed me before I could take half of their health with the 30mm cannon... that's pathetic balancing. They need some real gamers to give feedback. How in the world does something that fly and have free-range of the map have more health then a slow moving vehicle?I was hitting all my shots and there's nothing that I can do personally to improve. It's just busted, and has been since release. Dice is just simply infactuated with Helicopters. It's bizarre.

I've also experienced both attack helis and jets melting my wildcat in seconds. There is no point to use wildcat at all, it's useless. Only way to play this game is to stay in indoor flag areas and avoid going out to field where you are just harvested.There is absolutely no chance to face air vehicles with ground vehicles and survive.

@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:@Wargame_Enj0yerJust like they renamed the flying transports to Gunships, the Wildcat should be renamed to Housecat ! They even usually stay back at home (aka the spawn). At the early days they would be truly Wild and go to the front with the rest of the team to hunt prey in both the air and ground !For real lol.Almost all my deaths in the Wildcat are at the nearest point to the main spawn. Heli's are just free to camp spawn points. I've lost all good faith in this current incompetent team over at Dice. I'm sure there's a lot of talent concerning the actual Developers, but there's something going on with their management or something.I'm pretty sure the thought behind Sundance being in the game was just so they could make an "impressive trailer". The one where they break through the window, does a roll, and shoot some enemies. Then they proceeded to add Tornadoes and flying bags to every map... so many things revolving around one stupid game breaking decision. My point is this team has ZERO CLUE when it comes to balancing and how things should function. Air vehicles should fight each other as a primary function, then the reward for winning their fight is poking at ground vehicles. They SHOULDN'T be farming Heavy armor and Infantry whenever and wherever they please. That's just pathetic game design and balancing. The baffling thing is, who are they even catering to?! The 2042 population is not that healthy to begin with, then how many are just exclusively Heli nerds? Are those the whales in this game or something? The guys that no life this game and have been at max level now for several months? I doubt it.

Helicopter balancing is Pathetic STILL.

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iigloo
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@online_bully Your name suits you
Wargame_Enj0yer
2 years ago
@MADMAC50KPlayers have to shoot the ''avionics'' to get a disabled part.

''Regular body damage to the MD540 Nightbird will no longer result in systemic failure. Players should target the avionics of the aircraft in order to disable it.''

A disabled part that actually does NOTHING except letting the heli fly a little slower. You can still aim, kill and maneuver no problem with mouse and keyboard. It's the exact reason why RAO is useless vs helis. DICE can shove it, they're not taking this game serious.
JacquesVabres
New Veteran
2 years ago
They favor aerial vehicles once again.
Not surprising actually.
We really see that veteran developers have left this license.
ElliotLH
Hero+
2 years ago
@ragnarok013 wrote:

@VOLBANKER_PC wrote:

@ATFGunrThe AA in BF 5 did not stand a chance against any half way decent pilot.

Pilots could fire their missiles from an out of range position!

@VOLBANKER_PC true and when the Fligerfaust came out it was actually balanced and gave infantry an actual counterbalance but DICE nerfed it into the ground after the pilot's wailing and gnashing of teeth. Even now in 2042 if you get a lock on and fire the pilot simply flares, runs away and returns once it recharges. Flares at a minimum should recharge much more slowly for balance reasons.

I still think changing the Fligerfaust was a mistake. When I was getting OHK by one it was usual because I was being lax with my flying and deserved to get smacked down. I think it added a nice element of risk too as SAA wasn't really much of a threat in my experience (I had the sites memorised and used to watch the minimap for icons disappearing, so either escaped them or killed them).
Wargame_Enj0yer
2 years ago
@ElliotLH I agree. How did you like the BF1 flak-gun? The AT rifle that could shoot flak shells?
ElliotLH
Hero+
2 years ago
@Wargame_Enj0yer I didn't get on too well with it when I tried using it, but I think that was just because you had to use the bipod. I'm sure I got shot down by a couple in BF1 though. How did you find it?
Wargame_Enj0yer
2 years ago
@ElliotLH At first it was awkard becasue of how you had to set it up, but ultimateIy I find it pretty cool to use.
If you could find another engineer or squadmate to run the same setup you could down an ace pilot that was on a strafe vs ground. That actually worked. It had a good balance between chance of coordination in a pool of randoms versus aircraft farming infantry.
ElliotLH
Hero+
2 years ago
@Wargame_Enj0yer Nice, I probably didn't give it enough of a chance back then. Using it in tandem with someone else is a good shout too.

The Burton was my go to AA in BF1. Those incendiary rounds were great against low flying planes.

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