Helicopter controls

Yeah that's very true. I just found the helicopter controlls in BF4 to be too complex...at least for me. Now I love to fly in games, and when I eventually sussed out how the controls work in the 2042 beta I loved them. I'm not that of a competitive player...sometimes I am, but I just play game for the fun and for the experience. Whenever I think in my head  I can suss the controlls for helis and jets in battlefield 4 I just completely mess up.

I played xbox one s for the beta but am currently working on getting and series x

Yeah I understand what your saying.

That's awesome. I do like to play boots on the ground too, but i also like mix my playtime  with the vehicles as well.

Oh what did you say your gameplay was against?

@alexironhide1997i worked my  azz of to find a Xbox series x
but i can tell ya its worth it.

i played the beta on series x since the early acess, i was stunned.
i downloaded the xbox one version on the series x to play with my friends and the performance of the xbox one version compared to the series x is like night and day.

i hope u can get one before the launch, to enjoy the game in its full beauty

Thabks mate. My birthday is at the very start on November and have put series x on my birthday list. Weather get it for my birthday ill find out. If not then ill just buy on with any money I get for my bday. 

As a North American remote controlled helicopter flyer irl, the control scheme on controller makes absolute sense to me. Throttle and yaw on left stick. Cyclic controls (pitch and roll controlled by main rotor) on the right stick. This is exactly how we setup our transmitters. Europeans and Australians have it setup with throttle function to the right stick and the elevator control to the left stick. There's good enough reasons why it's done either way, but most of them deal with actual RL flight physics and control. The two schemes are referred to as mode 1 (E/OCE) and mode 2 (NA).

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@BaronVonGoon wrote:

I loved the heli controls. Heli's felt responsive. 

I sucked at them in BF4. Some heli pilots with 5 centuries worth of heli time want the controls to be retuned to janky and unresponsive so no one other than them has any interest in picking heli's in the deploy screen. 

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Sorry nothing personal but I suggest you go and try helicopters in Battlefield 3 or 4 on PC first. Describing BF2, 3 or 4 flying as "janky" or "unresponsive" is just a lie. I am not talking about controls, I'm talking about how the heli behaves when you press a certain key.

I don't know how the console games have been, but this PC beta clearly had its flying mechanics dumbed down to the level of consoles. Nowhere near was it as responsive and agile as in earlier PC titles. It was clearly designed for controller players and all the movement was more restricted; i.e. rolling the heli on it's side made the heli fly sideways instead of making it start to roll.

I know they probably won't fix it because they are obsessed with crossplay and because of this have just developed identical flying mechanics for both PC and consoles. Well only time will tell, I do hope joystick controls are properly implemented.

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@IAF_Nobanaa wrote:

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@BaronVonGoon wrote:

I loved the heli controls. Heli's felt responsive. 

I sucked at them in BF4. Some heli pilots with 5 centuries worth of heli time want the controls to be retuned to janky and unresponsive so no one other than them has any interest in picking heli's in the deploy screen. 

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Sorry nothing personal but I suggest you go and try helicopters in Battlefield 3 or 4 on PC first. Describing BF2, 3 or 4 flying as "janky" or "unresponsive" is just a lie. I am not talking about controls, I'm talking about how the heli behaves when you press a certain key.

I don't know how the console games have been, but this PC beta clearly had its flying mechanics dumbed down to the level of consoles. Nowhere near was it as responsive and agile as in earlier PC titles. It was clearly designed for controller players and all the movement was more restricted; i.e. rolling the heli on it's side made the heli fly sideways instead of making it start to roll.

I know they probably won't fix it because they are obsessed with crossplay and because of this have just developed identical flying mechanics for both PC and consoles. Well only time will tell, I do hope joystick controls are properly implemented.

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I'd argue has less to do with the difference in control input than the physics of the vehicle models themselves. The Heli's in 2042 are much more nimble due to a feeling of "lightness" in the physics. In BF4 you have to be incredibly precise with your movements as the weighty inertia of the vehicles makes recovering control when thrown off balance much harder than in 2042. Especially in the attack Heli's, which really feel like they have the weight of flying tanks in BF4.

I play BF4 on console and there are many pilots that can consistently do amazing things in the Heli's so they're obviously not limited by the controller. As for myself I can only claim to be minimally competent and often wind up crashing when I try to get fancy even though I've got plenty of time in them. But I played the 2042 Beta on PC with a ps4 controller, I crashed right after takeoff about five times but then started to quickly figure it out and by the end of the second day I was able to pull off maneuvers in attack heli's I couldn't dream of doing in a little bird in BF4.