Helicopter gameplay is near damn impossible
Hi. It's really getting out of hand. It's too spammy. Best i've had 4 TV dodge at once but eventually i loose to them cause i has nowhere to go, i can't counter cause person(s) that use, is hidden. ...
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The way you ask a question, give an answer to it without any clue, and jump on easiest conclusion says a lot on you.
I know what i'm talking about, i won't pretend to be a very good pilot, average i'd say. But you should notice that most of the self-claimed "good pilots" aren't in reality.
I do play infantry and vehicules because it's how the game is designed to be played, and because it helps me a lot in every situation because i know the limitations and strenghs of my oponents ingame.
Reading you i higly doubt you do.
Soo instead of vain debates here, because you only watch one side of the coin, i would suggest you to watch some real good ones and listen to what they say. Youtube is full of "i'm a god pilot !!!"
Here is one of the top ones, he's no joke and knows the game. Look how he fly and maybe you won't have to come back to defend the "good pilots are mad to spend all their time in the spawn screen becauses AA is OP".
Practice, use good advices from the bests, and then come back to talk about balancing.
@l_Grand_Vizir_l
Dude, join Silk discord if you link him as the best one. His opinion is that heli is close to unplayable on any decent server if multiple Lis are shooting at you. Also, since you don't know anything about helis and it shows with your comments like "i won't pretend to be a very good pilot, average i'd say." - why bother posting your inexperienced opinion?
PS - you can check OP stats and decide how good he is as well. It doesn't have anything to do with helis being weak compared to previous BFs at this current point though.
PPS - also, why don't you open your stats for us to verify your game experience and skill? Afraid?
@-AC-Ju5t1cei love those "héli" threads, you have the funniest over self estim coments you could find, thanks for yours.
Silk explain the game is unplayable for many reasons mostly technical points, not because of Lis... Don't make other players talk with your words, it's really sad.
Then comes the funny part.
So in your opinion, if i do not claim here "i'm soo good" my opinion is invalid? It was not a coment but a statment from myself on how i judge my performance... You have absolutly no clue of how i play.
Soo it's only a toxic tennage talk there, grow up.
Oh let's go further... you rely on STATS to judge players ?!?!?
You know Portal is a farm simulator for many players and stats have absolutly no sense here?
You pretend a lot but seem to be really ignorant about this game.
It has always been a false inidcator in BF because it does not show what you play, Conquest, Tdm, Air sup, etc etc . This radicaly changes your stats dude. And not considering it
just demonstrates a little more that you are obtuse and only look at what you want. There is no way to debate with someone who's still imature enough to consider a player only on a few numbers especially when stats are twisted like in this BF2042.You have no argument to defend your opinion and instead try some bashing on players who think different from you?"Open my stats or afraid"... Are you really taunting me like a 12 years old ????Waow congrats, you made me laugh a lot. But please, try to find some solid arguments to debate instead of such childish attitude.Debate... Well It could be a debate, but seing how it goes it's gonna turn in a usual 3-4 players stating they know better and everybody else is wrong and don't understand because only those 3 or 4 players are true players. We, all other scrubs, don't get it because we are stupid of course... blablablaHopeless, just let this thread die with those 3 or 4 "great players" who spend their time in the spawn screen but have great stats to shame us and gonna bring light to the blind crowd of bad players we are...
@l_Grand_Vizir_l wrote:@-AC-Ju5t1cei love those "héli" threads, you have the funniest over self estim coments you could find, thanks for yours.
Silk explain the game is unplayable for many reasons mostly technical points, not because of Lis... Don't make other players talk with your words, it's really sad.
Then comes the funny part.
So in your opinion, if i do not claim here "i'm soo good" my opinion is invalid? It was not a coment but a statment from myself on how i judge my performance... You have absolutly no clue of how i play.
Soo it's only a toxic tennage talk there, grow up.
Oh let's go further... you rely on STATS to judge players ?!?!?
You know Portal is a farm simulator for many players and stats have absolutly no sense here?
You pretend a lot but seem to be really ignorant about this game.
It has always been a false inidcator in BF because it does not show what you play, Conquest, Tdm, Air sup, etc etc . This radicaly changes your stats dude. And not considering it
just demonstrates a little more that you are obtuse and only look at what you want. There is no way to debate with someone who's still imature enough to consider a player only on a few numbers especially when stats are twisted like in this BF2042.You have no argument to defend your opinion and instead try some bashing on players who think different from you?"Open my stats or afraid"... Are you really taunting me like a 12 years old ????Waow congrats, you made me laugh a lot. But please, try to find some solid arguments to debate instead of such childish attitude.Debate... Well It could be a debate, but seing how it goes it's gonna turn in a usual 3-4 players stating they know better and everybody else is wrong and don't understand because only those 3 or 4 players are true players. We, all other scrubs, don't get it because we are stupid of course... blablablaHopeless, just let this thread die with those 3 or 4 "great players" who spend their time in the spawn screen but have great stats to shame us and gonna bring light to the blind crowd of bad players we are...
You already said you’re not the best pilot so your opinion doesn’t matter either.
@l_Grand_Vizir_l
I'm in most major pilot discords, so I know these guys personally. Please, learn to read as well, since my "his opinion is that heli is close unplayable in..." transforms into your "Silk explain the game is unplayable because of...". Just lol. There are ways to check if stats were farmed in Portal, just so you know.
Having said that, you are bad at the game (hence you hide your bad stats) and that's probably why your opinion about game balance is also so detached from reality. If you were a pilot in this game, you would know how difficult it is sometimes to fly against a competent team and especially good Lis players. But keep your 0.5 KD rolling, so I can continue farming you in my games as I usually do.
@-AC-Ju5t1ce wrote:@l_Grand_Vizir_l
Dude, join Silk discord if you link him as the best one. His opinion is that heli is close to unplayable on any decent server if multiple Lis are shooting at you. Also, since you don't know anything about helis and it shows with your comments like "i won't pretend to be a very good pilot, average i'd say." - why bother posting your inexperienced opinion?
PS - you can check OP stats and decide how good he is as well. It doesn't have anything to do with helis being weak compared to previous BFs at this current point though.
PPS - also, why don't you open your stats for us to verify your game experience and skill? Afraid?You know, infantry is unplayable if multiple vehicles shoot at you. Armor is unplayable if multiple air are shooting at you.
So why should air get a break? The expectation that a game with 32-64 opponents and only 1 gets to engage you is a completely moronic expectation. It just shows the entitlement attitude with gaming.
Oh and for the record as someone who finally T1'd Lis, if youre dying to Lis, accelerate and you wont. Turn and you wont. Adjust pitch, go higher. The Lis rocket is the easiest things to avoid. Fly around a building, out of bounds.
Now after about 300 kills, I learned the pattern of pilots and planned my rockets accordingly. I began to down Tbirds and Stealths which are one hits. Not because they are easy, but because the pilots have enjoyed such an easy time of it, they became lazy pilots.LOL, multiple Lis. That was hilarious. Hey everybody, the air pilot who has unlimited ammo and rockets thinks its unfair to team up on them.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA@Padding_Ur_StatsLiz has unlimited ammo too with higher delay. Let's not go there. Every other ground vehicle has it also.
Imo you shouldn't have that 1 hit reward with 20x spawn timer difference. If helo would instant spawn, you know, i wouldn't be here.@Man_iLoveFishing Liz has unlimited ammo too with higher delay. Lets not go there
Oh please lets go there. You have a 5 second overheat. She has a 20 second pause to get back 1 rocket. In that time, your Borg Regen of you sitting OB or behind a building regenerates ALL damage she did with the last rocket. 1 rocket from you kills a ground. Unless youre in a Tbird or Stealth, it takes 4 rockets. And frankly, if youre in something with the high speed and agility as the previous mentioned, and youre getting shot down a lot, youre not a good pilot. Those birds get hit from Lis about 1% of the time.
Every other ground vehicle has it also.
Yep, but they dont have the speed or ability to go out of bounds like air. Additionally, the topic is about Helos.
That being said, if you pay attention to my posts, I have lobbied for Borg Regen to be removed from the game on all platforms, yes, soldiers too.
Imo you shouldn't have that 1 hit reward with 20x spawn timer difference. If helo would instant spawn, you know, i wouldn't be here.
1 hit? Air farms ground. It isnt one hit. It is consistent hits all game long. You attempt to minimize the advantage of Air, and you fail miserably. If youre getting hit, you need to change your strat. MiniHelos should not get hit at all from Lis. Period. If they are, up your game.
@Padding_Ur_Stats wrote:You know, infantry is unplayable if multiple vehicles shoot at you. Armor is unplayable if multiple air are shooting at you.
So why should air get a break? The expectation that a game with 32-64 opponents and only 1 gets to engage you is a completely moronic expectation. It just shows the entitlement attitude with gaming.
Oh and for the record as someone who finally T1'd Lis, if youre dying to Lis, accelerate and you wont. Turn and you wont. Adjust pitch, go higher. The Lis rocket is the easiest things to avoid. Fly around a building, out of bounds.
Now after about 300 kills, I learned the pattern of pilots and planned my rockets accordingly. I began to down Tbirds and Stealths which are one hits. Not because they are easy, but because the pilots have enjoyed such an easy time of it, they became lazy pilots.LOL, multiple Lis. That was hilarious. Hey everybody, the air pilot who has unlimited ammo and rockets thinks its unfair to team up on them.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAYou are another player with private profile and excuses to not show stats. Good players in this game end up with good stats. Low skill players don't. Not only you are not good at the game, you try to shove your incorrect opinion as objective and the only correct one. And no, every single soldier should NOT have a rocket launcher that can be replenished instantly with redeploy, insane maneuverability on rocket and finally the damage to one-shot the only, SINGLE attack vehicle that takes more time to master and learn. I don't know why it's difficult for people to understand, but recoilless M4/5 is litterally a worse version of TV against air now.
Go and check how TV was implemented in BF 4 please, that game made much more sense in the balance department.
@-AC-Ju5t1ce no one is obligated to show their stats and stats have ZERO to do with anyone's opinion. And you're right, good players have good stats and not so good players have not so good stats. That's life...and none of that has anything to do with someone's opinion being correct or not. It's called an "opinion" not a "fact" for a reason. I believe you are talking about a helo being the "SINGLE attack vehicle that takes more time to master and learn" and in my opinion, that's false. Especially the stealth. It's not all that.. I'm not a good pilot and can admit that (keyboard and mouse flying sucks) which is why I don't fly them often, but I can tell you I've NEVER been hit by a Lis missile and that is FACT. They are just way too easy to dodge. I haven't gone and looked at your profile and don't intend to because it's pointless, but I'm betting you fly mostly the stealths and not much else just based on the fact that you don't debate things about helos. Instead, you come in here and tell people they suck at the game and any opinion that doesn't favor the helo is wrong because they might just get a buff which would kill your ability to easily farm kills with the helo. Don't bother looking at my stats and I stand by to have you tell me my opinion is invalid too, because my stats are hidden. Everyone, hidden stats or not, knows that there is a balance issue in 2042 when a person can go 90 KD or better doing something...
- @Padding_Ur_Stats It is such a drag to practice the liz rockets with the amount of waiting involved in their reload.
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
@Padding_Ur_StatsIt is such a drag to practice the liz rockets with the amount of waiting involved in their reload.bots...but yeah, it sucks
