Hi Dice, this is my solution to XP farming servers issue, you are Welcome!

First thing first, farming is just part of the game nowadays. You don't want it get out of hands or nerf it to the ground that player lost motivation to play your game, which is you really need.

So first, XP Progression:

1. AI Soldiers do not count towards ribbon Progression in All Out Warfare and Portal.

2. For Player custom made servers in Portal, Set a Daily XP Cap and a gloabal XP modifier of 0.8, that's 20% less than normal. The Daily XP Cap is PVE XP 20K, PVP XP 60K, in total 80K XP. Player will receive significant less XP afer reaching the Daily XP Cap, which is max 500 XP per lost, 900 XP per win upon match completion.

3. Featured playlist in Portal and solo coop in All Out Warfare is unaffected by Daily XP Cap. Featured playlist inclues 3 classic modes and community high light modes.

Mastery Progression:

Mastery progression mostly based on kills, I'll call it mastery point, for example 1 kill equals 1 mastery point.

1. For PVE(against AI Soldiers) Daily Cap is 30 mastery points per mastery entry, and a total of 150 mastery points, player will not receive progression after reaching either cap. This applys to All Out Warfare and Portal.

2.For PVP(against other players) on Player custom made servers in Portal, Daily Cap is 300 mastery points, no limit on mastery entry like in PVE.

Hazard Zone is unaffected by above changes, Occupying Forces(AI) is treated as player for Progression. It needs to be more rewarding for people even care.

Daily Cap maybe not the best solution, but it's simple and effective, what ever route you choose just be clear about it.

discussion

17 Replies

loveubf
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
@loveubf Peole paid to play the game, and portal is part of the game. So don't be too stingy about it!
carsono311
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@loveubf Farming is only “part of the game” in MMORPGs and other similar RNG-based “loot” games… not FPS games.

It was a terrible idea to permit Portal to count toward AOW progression in the first place. Easy answer would be a separate progression within Portal to reflect the original games.
zCOACHz
4 years ago
not everyone wants to play online, so you think those people shouldn't be allowed to unlock anything?
V1kingH4mster
4 years ago
they could implement something like BO1 did while playing against bots you progressed through the unlocks as normal but it was separate from the main online progression.
also, who is playing bf in 2021 and not playing online???
Neightrix
4 years ago
It's nice you want to compromise, but I completely disagree with daily or per-game caps of any kind. This isn't a free-to-play loot grinder, and time-gating is a pathetic strategy for player retention by developers who don't belong in the industry. DICE should be above such disrespectful tactics. Some of us just want to play some TDM PvP to get our attachments unlocked.
If they want to scale down progression on bots to 10% or 20% of normal player kills that's fine, but it needs to be back on in some form because that's what was advertised. Progression is supposed to be satisfying to the individual player, not give only those who have the time to grind 300 hours a sense of elitism.
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
4 years ago
@loveubfThe problem starts with the fact that there are gameplay (aka not just cosmetic) elements that need to be grinded.
Having a cap in the progression of gameplay elements is disgusting, not sustainable and should be illegal. (the last 2 are more of a nonsense joke quote of a certain meme politician of my country concerning the national debt)
BR-DuaneDibbley
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@zCOACHz If you play Portal you can configure your Portal experience to have everything unlocked. I think actually, this is even the default (played Rush on BFBC2 and Conquest for BF3 and had access to all weapons and attachemnts).
DethNade
New Traveler
4 years ago
Looks like they hire noob designs and coders every Battlefield game and every time they bring out a Battlefield game it gets worst.
Boland110
4 years ago
Hey @loveubf ,
I get what you are trying to do and I commend you for it just some thoughts on your points;
Just about "Caps" on PVE players and not allowing any rewards on ribbons should be a no go, it disincentive's you to play the game after a certain amount of time, and we all know companies want you on for as long as possible, setting up a system that will limit a certain section of the player base (would love to know the actual % of the PvE community) will just * us off in the long run (not as much as now I must admit)
The XP farmers will always try and come up with something to cheat the system, but looking at the unlocks, are they really going to get that much of an advantage on the PvP players?, they couldn't be that great at the game if they're resorting to playing BOT's with no weapons,
Reducing the mastery on BOT's so that 3 BOT's = 1 Mastery Point is fine by me, I just hope that they won't nullify it for me if I reduce the global TTK (hate bullet sponge) - and its not like I'm rambo either, the BOT's f me up.
I think Dice/EA panicked a bit on Friday, we'll see what happens today.
If a dev reads this by any chance, I actually had a blast on Friday in my server on Portal (pre nerf), Thank you for your efforts getting this to market.
xXHappy_PuppyXx
Rising Ace
4 years ago
@loveubf Ya I'm going to have to say... no