Pretty sure .45 ACP should be doing a lot more damage per round than the K30.
Not to mention the fact that the K30, with a 50 round drum mag, does more damage per round, has a higher ROF, with ZERO recoil, and with a substantially larger mag than the PBX 45.
Give us reasons to run something besides K30.
@Zhukov211 wrote:Pretty sure .45 ACP should be doing more damage per round than the K30. Not to mention the fact that the K30, with a 40 round drum mag, does more damage per round, has a higher ROF and substantially larger mag than the PBX 45.
Give us reasons to run something besides K30.
Sadly. I think DICE feels that T1 badges are a good enough reason.
K30 is awesome. I can even outgun snipers with it
From a balancing standpoint, it is rough. K30 dominates. From a ballistic standpoint, 9mm typically has higher penetration power than 45 acp so it makes sense that the k30 does more damage than the pbx.
@Corvus8gamingBruh penetration power and knock down power along with cavitation are two totally separate things.
As someone that has spent most of my adult life as a combat medic, I’d much rather be shot by 9mm than .45 ACP.
Where a 9mm round might enter your thigh/quadriceps muscle, if the round misses the femur(thigh bone) and doesn’t damage the femoral artery, the round can make a clean little exit wound out the other side of your leg. I have personally seen and treated these types of small caliber wounds several times. As long as no bone or artery was damage, you can easily clean up, patch up a person and be done with them.
On the other hand a .45 round “through and through” following the same exact path as the 9mm round is going to blow out a baseball or softball size chunk of meat out of the back of your leg as the round exits. With the increased cavitation, the .45 round could perhaps crack or completely fracture your nearby femur along with possibly rupturing the femoral artery.
Have you ever seen what a 7.62 round does to a cinder block wall compared to 5.56? Sure the 5.56 can punch nice little holes with higher penetration, but the 7.62 is going to blow out fist sized chunks of the wall with every impact. The difference is night and day. It’s the same with .45 compared to 9mm.
The 45 round should be doing a lot more damage than 9mm in game. Not from simply a factual standpoint but for balance. There’s absolutely no reason to choose any other SMG than the K30 with the current broken OP state of the K30.
And just FYI I use the K30 about 90% of the time. Each SMG in game should be viable and should have unique strengths and weaknesses.
@Zhukov211 wrote:Pretty sure .45 ACP should be doing a lot more damage per round than the K30.
Not to mention the fact that the K30, with a 50 round drum mag, does more damage per round, has a higher ROF, with ZERO recoil, and with a substantially larger mag than the PBX 45.
Give us reasons to run something besides K30.
According to sym.gg the PBX hits for 28 dmg per shot and the K30 hits for 22 dmg per shot. Dunno how up to date sym.gg is these days but I cant remember reading any changes to the PBX or K30.
@PantleonOn the UI the PBX and K30 both show 40 damage and/or 35 damage on console, depending on ammo type.
In game when trying out the PBX I’ll very often lose in a 1 v1 vs whatever in situations I know I would have most like come out on top running the K30.
The difference I feel when using the PBX is much slower slower rate of and dying a lot more often in head to head, close, mid and mid to long range encounters than when I'm using the K30. I’m sure others can chime in and confirm the same.
Even at mid to long range I see no reason at all to use the PBX45 compared to the K30. K30 out performs the PBX in every way. Not to mention the K30’s 50 round drum mag that does as much damage as the much smaller PBX 45’s high power mag.
